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Britian's Secret Health Tourists - anyone watch it?

This was shown on BBC1 Wednesday evening at 9pm, did forum members watch it?Gosh, no wonder the NHS is severely short of money and now they want to close our A&E facilities!I hope that GP who was selling fake NHS numbers is struck off!

Jean F Fernandez ● 4938d67 Comments

Re Have another gin and tonic          xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx    never touch the stuff, apart from which I feel perfectly ok , thanks for your concern. I am told imbibers of the stuff suffer from boozers' gloom, so maybe that clue might help?

Tony Price ● 4915d

Have another gin and tonic . You might feel better.

George Knox ● 4915d

Re  gullible enough to be misled.          xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx      Ooh er. I wonder if they will step forward and be counted?

Tony Price ● 4915d

Can't admit you are wrong can you. Another example of misleading those who are gullible enough to be misled.That's dishonest.You notice nothing, but you indulge in distortion.

George Knox ● 4915d

Re  wonder why the N H S is heading for the rocks            xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx    and maybe someone is trying to bust the American  health set-up?            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jhx_2TqffE

Tony Price ● 4915d

Re  Only if claimed fraudulently. Otherwise wrong.         xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Hi stalker ( every post you have made on this thread is in " answer " to one of mine ) so instead of your obsession with me, get on and produce the racist posts you accuse me of making. I notice two other posters on here have got the measure of you?..

Tony Price ● 4915d

Only if claimed fraudulently. Otherwise wrong.

George Knox ● 4915d

RE  a sign on the side of a mud hut in Africa some years ago                   xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and some wonder why the N H S is heading for the rocks. Apart from the Health fiasco,did you know that if the breadwinner of a family can get to this country, he can claim benefits for all his dependents back home ( and you can imagine what useful checks are made ). Apparently, we taxpayers keep whole villages going in Africa. This country probably supports half the world one way and another.

Tony Price ● 4916d

Why do you think there was a sign on the side of a mud hut in Africa some years ago which says: This is what to do when you get to England, listing the hospitals where one could go for treatment!This was discovered by a hospital employee when she was out there!

Jean F Fernandez ● 4916d

Re  NHS must treat all and sundry who arrive on these shores?                 xxxxxxxxxxxxx and what do you think the effect will be . I anticipate there will be organised " tours " of the sick and elderly from every blessed country overseas. Would you, if in a country where effective treatment is either not available or within reasonable time,not get on a plane to dear ole Blighty and plonk yourself at the hospital specialising in your complaint. Utter bluddy madness.  There will now be organisations who will promote these " trips " and watch out  when the word really gets around the world, and don't forget English is the world language, every b gg r will know about it.

Tony Price ● 4916d

So it's OK to hasten the demise of elderly patients using the 'Liverpool Care Pathway' - the controversial 'end of life' treatment regime but it seems it is perfectly OK for the NHS must treat all and sundry who arrive on these shores?Yet another reason to get the hell out of the EU I think!

Jean F Fernandez ● 4916d

It would seem that the EU would like Britain's NHS to operate as an Inter-National Health Sevice. I think that Temporary Visitors and Holiday Tourists should only be granted Visas when they are in possession of HEALTH-INSURANCE  for the durance of their stay in the UK. They may Buy that Insurance or be given to them FREE by their own Government/Passport issuing Authority.

Os A Whittle ● 4916d

Re  impersonator. aka many others.....        xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  maybe it is about time these Forums were looked into by outside official bodies, as to who runs them, how and what is their real purpose. They certainly ain't  genteel organs of local chit chat. One person's obsession,harassment over many years of me and one or two others , proves that, apart from other facts.

Tony Price ● 4921d

Hello Robin where have you been..... Can't hide from us.....

Marie Anne OConnell ● 4921d

Get outa here.....impersonator. aka many others.....come outa the closet...show your colours....

Marie Anne OConnell ● 4921d

Re  obviously the great Tony Price knows better.        xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  this post just goes to prove the " person's " obsession with me, which goes back years and is tantamount to harassment, and in this instance, let him show where I have denigrated the employ of immigrants in the N H S. As this person has access to records going back years, he should easily be able to drag up  several, as he did yesterday by dragging up a post I made 4  yes FOUR years ago. Fings ain't what they appear ( on the surface ) to be. Ain't that so, R T ?

Tony Price ● 4921d

Well said, Andy. The Royal College of Midwives have said that maternity services in this country would collapse without migrant labour, but obviously the great Tony Price knows better.

Ron Carter ● 4921d

I have pointed out before that what you have said is factually incorrect but I'll repeat it anyway.The NHS is not collapsing due to usage by illegal immigrants. They account for a tiny, tiny proportion of total spending. Obviously an attempt should be made to limit this but it is not the major issue you present it to be.Immigrants in general make a positive contribution to the NHS. No serious economist disputes this - you have to accept it as a fact.The NHS is not collapsing but it is struggling to cope with an ageing population and increased life expectancy. Without immigration it probably would collapse. Many immigrants are from EU countries where we have reciprocal agreements for health care allowing us to get free treatment in their countries. A large proportion of EU immigrants in this area are from Eastern Europe so we don't necessarily get back as much as we spend but 100,000s of British people benefit from free treatment when on holiday in Europe and the Spanish taxpayer pays a huge bill for British people living there so it all evens out. As for immigrants from non-EU countries (who are these days a relatively small proportion) are you expecting them to come here and pay taxes yet not be entitled to health care? This would be fundamentally unfair and very difficult to administer and probably end up saving hardly any money.The problem seems to be that as you live in an area with a high level of immigration when you go to your Doctors you see mainly people who are not English. You are extrapolating this experience to the whole country and imagining that it is just immigrants that use the NHS. This is not the case - they probably use it less than the generality of the population because they tend to be younger than average.

Andy Jones ● 4921d

Point taken M.Stone. However an isolated incident compared with a daily deluge of thousands doesn't 'cut the mustard'.Mandatory medical insurance for tourists along with compulsory residency and work record of at least 5 years before getting treatment would go a long way tolwards preventing the collapse of the NHS..... not rocket science...

Marie Anne OConnell ● 4922d

Marie - this may well be true but please do not just limit to immigrants demanding to be treated. I have recently finished physio for a fractured elbow and was at my penultimate treatment when this very posh, "plum in mouth" woman waltzes into the waiting area and demanded to see a physio therapist as she had an ache in her shoulder. My physio was advising me how to do the exercises she had set me when this woman interrupted her and wanted to know if she could make an appointment. Highly rude. Despite several attempts by my physio and the reception people to advise her the correct way for her to get an appointment she would not listen and in the end pushed her way through to the treatment gym.So Marie it isn't just immigrants - it is what you class as "indigenous" people and before you ask she was English to the core,

F Stone ● 4922d

No-one should be allowed entry without proof of medical insurance.....surely that should not be difficult to put in place. No insurance -  no treatment.. job done. This country is being crippled by immigration and health tourists.. It's time to pull the plug and stop the rot. Go to any A&E dept and it's full to the brim with foreigners many of them who do not seem to have much need for emergency treatment... In fact it has the air of a socIal club. I went to my GP yesterday and I was the only indiginous patient.Several were filling out forms to join the practice and having trouble as they could't understand English. They turn up for trivial reasons which do not require taking up a doctor's time yet they demand to be seen. IT'S ALL SO WRONG and I'm 'sick' of supporting these scroungers.....

Marie Anne OConnell ● 4922d

Re  or am I wrong in that assumption?          xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  no , of course you are not Jean. In fact it is grossly immoral for us a) to have to pay for others who are not entitled to treatment and who have paid nothing toward it  and  b) in the process deprive the genuine Brits of getting  their due rights and treatment. The practice should be stamped out to rescue the NH S, which I think you will find is teetering on bankruptcy, hence all the closures, which despite the palliatives, are done to save money.

Tony Price ● 4922d

The NHS apparently needs to save money by closing a number of A&E Departments puttig the local population at risk when it will take longer to reach hospital in an emergency.I don't think the NHS was designed to treat everyone no matter whether or not they are entitled to treatment.A friend worked in a High Dependency Unit in the NHS for 9 years and seen for herself evidence of health tourists on a daily basis.With the best will in the world we really cannot afford to offer free treatment to everyone without exception, or am I wrong in that assumption?

Jean F Fernandez ● 4922d

I still have the reader's letter somewhere Tony.

Jean F Fernandez ● 4922d

'Those NHS Professionals who come here from other countries do so because they WANT to.'It wasn't my intention to suggest otherwise. Not sure how this is relevant.'There are Doctors here who could not match the experience of an experienced nurse in medical care. I believe they were drop outs from Medicine back in their homeland, but know enough to bluff their way into being a GP in the UK.'Whilst it may be true that a very experienced nurse will have more experience in medical care than a very junior doctor, a qualification from any medical school that allows you to practice in this country is a challenging thing to achieve. Nobody who has not completed their qualification would be allowed to treat patients here. You may believe otherwise but you are incorrect. Hospitals check carefully because of the potential liabilities of not doing so.I am not praising the NHS because the proportion of foreign doctors, I am pointing it out as a fact. It is a way that we benefit significantly at the expense of foreigners. It would be better if we could afford to train all our own doctors and other skilled medical professional but we can't. Luckily we can reap the benefit of other countries' investment in training.

Andy Jones ● 4922d

Re  non-British pensioners to live out their lives here.!                xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  bluddy hell, it gets worse, is this a fact, Jean?

Tony Price ● 4922d

Re  Read in the news recently:             xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  thanks Jean, makes you sick, as I wrote recently, it is not just a question of money/cost but when treatment is given to aliens it can't be given to we who need it and pay for it via contributions throughout our lives. Those who issued such instructions should be  made known and to answer for their stabbing us in the back, as that is what they have done and continue to do. Why do we have so many trojan horses in this country?.

Tony Price ● 4922d

Andy Jones is right on the money. By the way, based upon Tony Price's definition of "immigrant" (i.e. anyone with a black of brown skin) well they practically run our local Ealing NHS Hospital - as anyone who has been there recently can readily testify. As Andy says, immigrants are net contributors - both to our economy and to our health service.

Ron Carter ● 4922d

Hi Andy Jones . Those NHS Professionals who come here from other countries do so because they WANT to. They do not join us because they feel in any way sorry for you or me.There are Doctors here who could not match the experience of an experienced nurse in medical care. I believe they were drop outs from Medicine back in their homeland, but know enough to bluff their way into being a GP in the UK.So many cases are now coming to light now that there is a demand to check their knowledge and practice once every 4/5 years. So please do not go down the road of praising  the NHS because of Foreign Doctors leaving their country to coming over here to practice.

Os A Whittle ● 4922d

"...I'd say tax payers of other countries pay more towards the benefit of the NHS than we spend on treating people who are not entitled to treatment."Interesting point - you could be right.

Tony Colliver ● 4922d

No one disputes that sometimes people get NHS treatment who are not entitled to it. It does have to be seen in the context of the overall NHS budget in which leakages like this make up a tiny fraction of the overall amount spent.If you are going to ask NHS to spend more time checking on entitlement you will be taking them away from clinical work. You are also dealing here with people who have chosen to dedicate their life to healing the sick. If you want to ask them to turn away people who they know they can cure just because there is a question mark over paperwork you are going to have to deal with an increasingly demoralised staff to the detriment of the whole service. Every one will accept that if there is no entitlement to treatment and the case isn't critical you should not give treatment but if you are not going to treat patients unless they can prove entitlement you will inevitably end up withholding care from people who actually were eligible to receive it.Also if you are so worked up about possible loss of the tax you pay bear in mind that a substantial number of the skilled professionals carrying out the care of 'NHS Tourists' will be from other countries. The tax payers of those countries helped pay for the medical education of the doctors and technicians yet we are getting the benefit. On balance I'd say tax payers of other countries pay more towards the benefit of the NHS than we spend on treating people who are not entitled to treatment.

Andy Jones ● 4922d

Another example of our generousity:'There are also 'care-home tourists' elderly relatives of non-British residents who come to Britain for a 'holiday' and coincidentally, become ill while they are here.They're then transferred from a hospital and placed in an old people's care home as the relatives are unable to look after them at their home and the elderly granny or granddad is too ill to fly back to their native land.The British taxpayer has to pick up the care bill for non-British pensioners to live out their lives here.!

Jean F Fernandez ● 4922d

Read in the news recently:!Having worked in the NHS for many years first in a hospital and later as a GP practice manager I can confirm that treating foreigners free of charge on the NHS is not new.Even 20 years ago we had patients who arrived off the plane from a foreign country and were driven straight to hospital for a medical condition or delivery of a child. It was up to the hospital to try to recoup the money from the patient who was, by that time, back in their own country and could not be contacted.We keep hearing of the influx of people from many countries who are seeking free NHS treatment. To deal with the problem in my time as a practice manager, we were issued with guidelines from our Primary Care Trust about which travellers were entitled to free treatment.When we asked how to proceed with people who did not firt into this category, we were told. 'just register everyone and we'll give them an NHS number'. This then enabled them to receive treatment of any kind for as long as they wanted, no matter where they came from.So my advice to anyone travelling the world is to stop off in England to pick up an NHS number. You can then carry on with your journey safe in the knowledge that Mother England will always look after you and even pick up the tab'.

Jean F Fernandez ● 4922d

Re  We do it when we go abroad .      xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx therein lies the difference Os, we play by the rules, others don't, and in a way you can't blame THEM ( ok, it is immoral for them to take advantage ) but the fault lays with our Govt. who allow this abuse to happen. A country should be able to control who comes in, who stays and what they get given while they are here, and our bunch do sod all to protect us in these ways.

Tony Price ● 4928d

Why is it not possible for a tourist , Visitor or Student applying for a visa to enter the UK be also required to produce a Globally recognised, valid Medical Insurance for the length of stay intended .? We do it when we go abroad .

Os A Whittle ● 4928d

Re  another drain on the NHS tha WE are paying for ..              xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx    but it is not just the cost but the deprivation of  bona fide UK patients of their legitimate treatment. While the H T's are  being treated, our people can't be. A few years ago I read re a hospital in South London where foreigners needing dialysis would fly in, go straight to the hospital and " demand " treatment as being urgent and the locals who were booked in were " pushed " aside and deprived of their due dialysis on time. I think that hospital has since been made bankrupt or certainly  not in a good financial condition. Also, see Jean's thread where we are now instructed by the E U  that we MUST treat people wherever they come from due to the Human Rights Act, so when that news gets known abroad, the whole bluddy world will fly in? Let's hope this gives Cameron the final push to get us out of that damned  H R Act..

Tony Price ● 4928d

We should simply refuse to allow this. Some countries in Europe, particularly those in Southern Europe,ignore many of the rules.

Keith Iddon ● 4929d

All kinds of scroungers arriving at Heathrow going straight to a hospital some in the throes of labour and having babies on the NHS all for free. They should not be allowed to travel to the UK without proof of medical insurance along with a passport, visa etc.....just another drain on the NHS tha WE are paying for ....gggrrrrrrrrr

Marie Anne OConnell ● 4929d

Re  all to do with the Human Rights Act!          xxxxxxxxxxx hopefully  even more incentive for Cameron to sign out of this damned piece of legislation.

Tony Price ● 4929d

According to Sky News the NHS and our GP's have now been instructed to treat ALL patients - instructions from the EU!This is all to do with the Human Rights Act!

Jean F Fernandez ● 4929d

I don't really understand what point you are trying to make but due to the Government's lenient policy on non-domiciled status there is probably a lot more money coming into the UK from dodgy businesses and corrupt practices overseas than vice versa.

Andy Jones ● 4933d

Those that do work along with those that run dodgy businesses and make money from corruptIon squirrel their money in accounts abroad so they still make little contribution to the economy here.... and so it rolls on and will get worse without urgent change in the way immigration is  (miss)handled ......

Marie Anne OConnell ● 4933d

'I distinctly recall having read  differently, that the "gain " is so small as being  not worth having but when  other aspects taken into consideration such as costs  to schooling, N H S etc , a great deficit ( those things so beloved of the previous government )is the end result.'You can distinctly recall reading this but not where you read it. Wherever it was it is untrue. The net contribution of immigrants to the exchequer is a substantial positive."large proportion will leave the country if they can't find work - you must be joking"I'm not. Since 2009 there has been a marked increase in immigrants having been made unemployed leaving the UK. That is one of the reason for the sharp fall in the net migration numbers."Re paid in tax by immigrants far exceeds the amount paid to provide them health care. -but you should relate what they take from the N H S to what they pay in Nat. Insce. contributions, and only part thereof."Why? National insurance is not hypothecated for spending on the Health Service.Reread my earlier post and you see that I did not use the total tax take from immigrants as the basis for working out their net contribution to the NHS but the proportion of their tax paid that would go to the NHS.You have made the claim that because you say 8% of benefits claimants are immigrants and because immigrants are 8% of the population are immigrants therefore all immigrants claim benefits. To put it kindly this shows that you don't really understand how statistics work. By trying to base your opinions on them you are invariably wrong.

Andy Jones ● 4933d

Re  you have a long track record of making abusive postings.      xxxxxxxxxxxxx I do not resort to personal abuse, no need  and leave that to others. And don't have to look far.

Tony Price ● 4933d

Re  but you have a long track record of making abusive postings.            xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  an allegation, prove it

Tony Price ● 4933d

It is rare for me to get angry with posters, but you have a long track record of making abusive postings.It all boils down to you not liking it when you are asked to produce evidence for your views. That is when you get abusive towards people rather than try to win your arguments with verifiable facts.Get over it.

George Knox ● 4933d

Re  which only you ae capable of.    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx when you go to bed tonight say  time and time again " I must try to post sensibly and not ones of personal abuse"  You  cannot know what all others think and rather stupid of you to say so. Try to stop being so aggressive and antagonistic. Does not impress, in fact the opposite.

Tony Price ● 4933d

Re  mostly from a skint background it's hardly surprising.        xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx    lack of money Keith does not  in itself  turn people to crime, the " leaning "  or influence must be there. And if from money-short  backgrounds, even more reason why  benefits also in operation?.

Tony Price ● 4933d

That's a good example of the low level retort which only you ae capable of. Happily I know from other postings that you are in a minority. Not your views about immigration but how useless you are at justifying your pathetic claims.

George Knox ● 4933d

Re  If you wish to debate and gain some respect           xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx    speak for yourself, and I couldn't give a monkey's what you think as I don't think you are a person one needs to concern oneself with. Simple as that.

Tony Price ● 4933d

You consistently make claims which few believe because you are so bigotted. If you wish to debate and gain some respect then when you say something back it up with your source. If you are not bothered then continue to be criticised for your inability to make a proper case.It's not difficult. Perhaps you are too lazy.

George Knox ● 4933d

THe survey I read suggested 77 million.You are probably correct in the percentage analysis.certainly so with the prison popluation.Beraing in mind of course the prison population is mostly from a skint background it's hardly surprising.

Keith Iddon ● 4933d

Re  the amount of food purchased and sewage treated,stood at 77million.            xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxKeith, I seem to remember Tesco's were involved somewhere along the line in that exercise, obviously to do with food purchased. 77 million I think is too high but  the true figure I am sure is well above the official one. As to the % of immigrants on benefits, my logic ( or otherwise ) is that as we are told immigrants make up 8% of the population, if  immigrants make up more than that % of the 5 million then they are all out of line , as I think you will find they are with prison population. The vast majority of immigrants I know are on benefits, certainly greater than 8%.

Tony Price ● 4933d

Tony,It would seem that you can't tell the difference between 8% of the population and 8% on benefits although I may have the wrong end of the stick.There are roughly 6 million on benefits out of a population of 60 million in all. Too many on both counts,granted. If 8% of the population are immigrants( a conservative figure imo) I would be surprised. I read a report in the Independent several years ago when an estimate of the true population of Britain,ignoring the useless cencus and based on the amount of food purchased and sewage treated,stood at 77million.

Keith Iddon ● 4933d

Re  Why don't you do something useful for yourself        xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx a) I would give 6 months notice and stop all bens  b) re-introduce when proper checks made and thus for many less  C) if 8%  on benefits are immigrants, it means ALL are on bens as N L said immigrants only  that % of the population. Those from a sub-saharan country are 60 and 80 % on welfare and housing bens  if that gives you some idea.         YOU produce figures instead of trying to make others do so, any fool can do that.

Tony Price ● 4933d

Re  No economist disputes that immigration         xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  I distinctly recall having read  differently, that the "gain " is so small as being  not worth having but when  other aspects taken into consideration such as costs  to schooling, N H S etc , a great deficit ( those things so beloved of the previous government )is the end result.  Re  large proportion will leave the country if they can't find work          you must be joking  Re paid in tax by immigrants far exceeds the amount paid to provide them health care.      but you should relate what they take from the N H S to what they pay in Nat. Insce. contributions, and only part thereof.

Tony Price ● 4933d

Here he goes again.. Excuse me but what was the nationality of the crooked NHS worker who was selling  NHI numbers, EU health cards and faking non-existent patients ..etc.. etc...You really must get your figures out of a raffle ticket barrel......DUH......yes RUINATION.. everywhere....Wake up!!!!!

Marie Anne OConnell ● 4933d

I've just watched this show, was his name really Massive Butt?

Bernadette Clover ● 4933d

Here's a piece of information TP. Today IDS at the Tory conference said there are 5M people of working age who are on Benefits. He said out of that number some 1M people were on Benefits for over 1 year.Why don't you do something useful for yourself and find out from government statistics how many of these 5M people are immigrants?

George Knox ● 4933d

'I don't think that is true, have not Migration Watch  dispelled that NL illusion.'No, they haven't. Migration Watch don't deny that immigration has been and can be beneficial to the economy they just argue it has been too high in recent years and therefore economies at a local level have been unable to adjust. They may be right but in any case net immigration has fallen sharply.No economist disputes that immigration has been an overall positive for the UK economy though some have reservations about the scale in the last decade.'And as most [immigrants] are on benefits,' This in completely untrue. In fact immigrants are much less likely to be on benefits than the general population because they tend to be of working age and a large proportion will leave the country if they can't find work. You are probably thinking of asylum seekers who are forced to go on benefits because they are not allowed to work. As soon as they are granted residency they are much more likely to take full-time employment than the general population.'immigrants etc are of benefit to the NHS.... mainly as recipients I would suggest?'No.The concept of net benefit is something that clearly you find difficult to grasp as a concept so I'll try and explain in the simplest possible terms. The amount paid in tax by immigrants far exceeds the amount paid to provide them health care. If you only consider the proportion of tax paid by immigrants equivalent to the proportion of Government spending on health they still will make a significant net contribution. This is not even considering the very significant proportion of the skilled NHS workforce that immigrants account for.

Andy Jones ● 4933d

Re  Firstly immigrants net make a positive contribution to the exchequer             xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I don't think that is true, have not Migration Watch  dispelled that NL illusion. And as most are on benefits, I don't think it can be true.

Tony Price ● 4933d

Re  immigrants etc are of benefit to the NHS....               xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx          mainly as recipients I would suggest?

Tony Price ● 4933d

I watched the programme. Firstly, this problem has nothing to do with immigrants. There is a clue in the title with the use of the word 'tourist'. The issue here is of foreign nationals coming to this country to illegally gain access to health care - they go home when they are cured. This is obviously wrong but to say that it is causing the country to 'descend into the depths of ruination' is comically over the top. The total cost of treatment of foreign nationals was estimated to be £50 million of which 80% was successfully reclaimed. The remaining £10 million is a tiny fraction of 1% of the overall health budget.I presume I am one of the misguided do-gooders being referred to as I have previously tried to point out facts to counter some of the ridiculous and untrue statements made on this forum.There are two facts which are not disputed by anyone with an IQ of over 100 because they are true. Firstly immigrants net make a positive contribution to the exchequer and secondly the NHS could not function without recruiting skilled staff from overseas.A few years ago my aunt was struck down with liver cancer. She spent here final few weeks in hospital under the care of a skilled oncologist and a team of nurses who set the highest standards for professionals. The Doctor was from Malaysia and not a single member of the nursing staff was trained in this country. Any one who says immigrants are not of benefit to the NHS is speaking from prejudice and not direct experience.

Andy Jones ● 4934d

Can you believe that some of the misguided do-gooders posters say that immigrants etc are of benefit to the NHS.... No wonder this country is descending into the depths of ruination.Stop the rot now......though I fear it's already too late.....

Marie Anne OConnell ● 4934d

If you have Catch Up TV you can watch this program if you have missed it.

Jean F Fernandez ● 4937d

In Manchester Tony.

Jean F Fernandez ● 4937d

Re  GP who was selling fake NHS numbers is struck off!          xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  where was he Jean, anywhere we know?

Tony Price ● 4938d