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Riots or not in the Broadway?

False or true can anyone confirm..Twitter if full of Twatter...

James Green ● 5357d98 Comments

"registered membership" - ? What on earth is that? Can this comment be substantiated? I heard no such evidence brought up in the courts."doing it for political reasons, ie lefties etc and those with anarchist tendencies"There is no evidence for this at all. I didn't see a single placard, politcal banner or insignia, or hear a political chant of any kind. This is pure fantasy. Most agree this was opportunist "shopping with violence".If the riots in Ealing were organuised by "lefties and those with anarchist tendencies", believe me, they would still be in the back room of a pub debating the constitution and terms of reference for the Organising Committee, and debating the need for allocated representation of various minority groups.In fact, the only efforts I have observed for "stirring up trouble and social unrest" over the last decades in the UK has come from far right groups such as the BNP and EDL who have held provocative marches which always end in violence. I cite Luton, Birmingham and Coventry as examples.Funnily enough, members of these right-wing groups did appear on the streets in areas such as Eltham, congregating mainly outside pubs in an effort to "defend our homes". (Apparently, this can best be done after consuming several pints of lager). Happily, most managed to find their way back to those very same homes later in the night, though much the worse for drink. I have to say, I would prefer the official forces of the law to carry out such tasks. That's what I pay my taxes for. Isn't it?

Mark Law ● 5316d

Re  most of the rioters DID in fact come from outside the Borough.              xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx    no doubt there was also a fair smattering of locals but those from outside must have been organised to come to Ealing ( and other parts of London to riot etc ) and thus there would have been a " central organising body " with a " registered membership" contactable by mobile phones and who I M O would be doing it for political reasons, ie lefties etc and those with anarchist tendencies, stirring up trouble and social unrest, as they have tried to do for decades in the UK.      On another aspect, which is the real reason for this posting is that I found today that SEBA has re-opened, so I called in and  thanked Brigg for doing so, as being aged 79 or thereabouts and having been  serving Ealing well for 30+ years it would have broken a lesser man and into retirement. Fortunately, he was insured but he could so easily have pocketed the money and given up. So at least one longstanding  private business in Ealing is still going, which makes a change.

Tony Price ● 5317d

A city is [not] fortunate when its walls are standing, while its morals are in ruins.     --Saint Augustine (354-430)       _The City Of God_ [415], Book I

Graham Weeks ● 5337d

ohhhh you made a funny!on the night our town was being smashed up, cars being burnt out and homes being terrorised you went out fishing!  touche my friend, touche.

Andy Vaughan ● 5346d

http://ealingrose.com/2011/08/17/the-ealing-riot-a-special-council-meeting/

Jaz Brown ● 5347d

http://rupahuq.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/dispatches-from-the-frontline/

Jaz Brown ● 5347d

I agree 100% with your comment on the "Seba Family".Dealt many times with the older man and he has always been a pleasure.I too hope he is insured and wish him best wishes for his continued buisness in our area.

James V McTaggart ● 5347d

I would appear from the information given to the Council meeting on Tuesday night that most of the rioters DID in fact come from outside the Borough."From figures presented it appears that most of the rioters came from outside Ealing - 103 people have so far been arrested, 62 of whom live outside the borough."http://www.ealingtoday.co.uk/default.asp?section=community&spage=common/eariotsaftermath016.htm

Mark Law ● 5347d

Well, the first lesson here is NEVER to watch Sky News, particularly with the awful, bigotted, ignorant air-head Kay Burley!  She's vile. You don't have to travel far on the internet to understand why she is loathed by so many. (But it may be instructive to do so!).She comes from the same editorial stable that produces Fox News in the USA and the 'News of the World' in the UK. Enough said.Obviously I was appalled by the way the Police acted in the past. (I lived through it too. I haven't forgotten Blair Peach). The Scarman Report highlighted many issues about inherent racist attitudes in the Met, and I would like to think that things have changed - not completely resolved - but at least improved. But I think we are all agreed that these riots were NOT a race issue - they were an economic and social issue.With regard to social housing - of course Ealing has social housing, but we do not have the large 'sink estates' with their attendent problems that other areas of the City do. The point I was making was that that is one of the reasons I believe the rioters came from outside the area.I love the dear old "Grauniad" but when they fill space with articles stating that "we're witnessing socio-spatial convergence", I just sigh and turn the page. *grin*And honestly, I have not been offended by anything above at all! (Actually I was only seeking clarification of a statement). It is heartening that nothing in this thread is personal or abusive and I have read it all with great interest - I warmly welcome the interesting debate.Oh, and did I mention - I love Ealing too!

Mark Law ● 5347d

My references to white and middle class were because of the statements made by sky news, saying that Ealing is predominately white http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEQlwnx9n5o&NR=1 I find it most upsetting. I have lived in Ealing W5 for 30 years, stop and search may not be a problem for young white teenagers in Ealing, but my children were regularly stopped and searched. I had to give them a leaflet on the procedure so that they could politely point out how the police were behaving towards them and ask the appropriate questions. They have even been stopped while out with white friends, who were not searched while they were, and their friends were shocked how blatant it was.  Luckily they  dealt with it and were able to moan at me about it and talk it through. Now they are older, it rarely happens as much. But for a number of years I worried when they went out, not only if other teenagers may start on them, but if the police would harass them.As for social housing, there are plenty is W5 , social housing does not have to be part of an estate, there are a number of properties on Windsor road, Oxford road, Madley road and Ealing Common, to name but a few. Ealing is a lovely. multi-cultural, socially and economically mixed area, which I love.          Please read this. http://www.ealingtoday.co.uk/default.asp?section=info&page=eariotsaftermath008.htmSorry if I offended you and got the wrong end of what you were saying.

Jaz Brown ● 5348d

I agree. Mainly it seems outsiders coming for 'shopping with violence'as Starkey designates looting.

Graham Weeks ● 5348d

Well, according to the Middlesex Post Code map, W5 is "Ealing" and W13 is "West Ealing". That's why I made the distinction. (W3 is "Acton" and W4 is "Chiswick").But I'm not getting into rows over post-codes; I just want to understand the point that is being made above.The issue is whether these rioters came from outside the area. I think many did. This is what distinguishes them from the rioters in Tottenham or Peckham for example, where local gangs were involved in organised looting.I do not believe we have the 'stop-and-search' problems that the above areas have, nor the dire problems with drug-dealing gangs. If we do, I would like to see some further evidence (please).And to be clear, I don't just mean the odd resident drug-dealer, but the hardened, embedded inter-gang warfare over territory and 'dealing rights' that exists in other parts of London.My contention is that "our" riots were simply copy-cat riots. People wishing to carry out some "shoplifting with violence and impunity". I have not heard of nor can find any evidence of the simmering discontent that certainly existed for a long time in the other areas mentioned above.I just want to understand what point those above are making when they make comments about "middle class" and "white".

Mark Law ● 5348d

W5 isn't the only postcode in Ealing - there's certainly plenty of social housing in W13 and there were riots here too.

Kirsty Murdoch ● 5348d

Ref: rioters coming from outside the area.The only point I am making is that if they went to join in the rioting, that this makes their acts so much more considered and deliberate, rather than being simply opportunistic.That is what is disturbing.If someone was walking home down Tottenham High Road and passed a looted shop, it is easier to imagine them simply helping themselves to the available stock - in the belief that they would not get caught.To have got on a bus/tube and then walked into Ealing town centre (Hillcrest Road is still some 20 minutes from Bond St/The Broadway), shows deliberate criminal intent. You wouldn't travel that far simply to observe the disturbances.They certainly did not look 'local' to me - I had never seen them in our ward before.Ealing is referred to as 'middle class' because of its high house prices and lack of social housing and large estates. (I am referring to W5 here). I am not so sure it  has "many [people from] different social, economic and educational backgrounds" actually living in W5.I am certainly unclear what 'white' means in this context.

Mark Law ● 5349d

ooooh clever clogs.Hook ,line and sinker..hahaha

Al Stuart ● 5349d

Most of the rioters were from outside the area, why was that disturbing? I am glad they don't live on my doorstep. However there were most probably some locals. Most weekends people shopping in Ealing are from outside the area. I think we need to stop thinking that Ealing is so 'middle class' and dare I say, white which one woman did say on bbc news. It is a multi-cultural, and of many different social, economic and educational backgrounds.

Jaz Brown ● 5353d

F Stone.There is a major difference between the words will,which you have used and may which I have used.See http://www.guardian.co.uk/housing-network/2011/aug/10/council-seeks-eviction-for-lootersand it will be noted that is not a cast iron certainty that looters "will" be evicted. So your little local paper source did not give the fuller story in context of the law.Let us hope that you will not make unqualified statements in future unless they are backed up by thorough research. Otherwise you mislead yourself and others.Evicting bad Council tenants is great for the remaining Council tenants. But where do the evicted go and how will they behave? Will the parents be evicted as well? Will consequent overcrowding and then social problems get even worse? Will their Benefits be stopped or will the Housing Benefit, if they continue to get it, be sufficient to pay 100% of rent in private accommodation. Quite probably not under the new rules.Would such treatment make the so called dysfunctional evicted even more dangerous to decent society?

George Knox ● 5354d

It's a sad fact that these 'youth gangs' give many young men the order and discipline that they actually want and crave in their lives - which for many is missing in their 'absent-father' homes.Thankfully, I do not believe that the more hardcore gangs, which deal in drugs, knives and weapons - have yet managed to infiltrate this part of London.Waht I did find disturbing was when I walked down to Ealing Broadway to collect my wife (who had been turned back in Bond St. and was therefore unable to come home without a long diversion via West Ealing), we passed a group of six youngsters in hoodies (five male, one female) walking along Hillcrest Road on their way down towards the Broadway.They were not locals - they had obviously come into the area.

Mark Law ● 5354d

It's a shame that MPs making illegal or fraudulent claims for second homes could not be evicted as well.

Mark Law ● 5354d

"smashing new cheese shop?Oh dear .....

Mark Law ● 5354d

Perfect for a new open prison - very open - no houses to speak of, no shops, no schools to truant from, no police to attack.........

Penny Crocker ● 5354d

If they should they be allowed to? Move the problem on to some other poor devil's area or allow them to roam the streets?

Penny Crocker ● 5354d

Grant Shapps has pledged to support landlords who evict tenants found to have been rioting. The housing minister, writing on the social networking website Twitter, stated: ‘I will back social landlords who evict tenants involved in any rioting.’Mr Shapps’ comments follow a statement yesterday from Greenwich Council saying the authority would seek to evict council tenants found guilty of criminal acts.Other councils have now followed Greenwich’s lead, and Westminster is one of them.It is absolutely appropriate for condemnation to be given against those who committed acts of criminality in the riots and for the criminal justice system to deal with them as appropriate. However, is it then right for local authorities and housing associations to further penalise tenants when their counterparts in the private sector will not have additional sanctions imposed? From much of the media coverage, it seems that a large number of those involved were youths, teenagers and young adults. Will their parents be liable for their criminal acts by having their tenancies rescinded? Furthermore, if eviction was sought and granted against those who were involved in the riots, would other crimes (for example car crime or shop lifting) then be added to a list of crimes where eviction could be sought? This sort of ill-thought through initiative sounds very much like a knee jerk reaction, typical of Tories not engaging their brain, which is surely not needed at this time.Why doesn't Shapps ever, ever think before he speaks? Precisely which element of housing law does he propose landlords use? You could try the Housing Act, but its quite a spurious claim - you'd have difficulty proving that the behaviour of rioters, outside of their own estate has significantly threatened the safety of those on it, or has impeded the ability of the landlord to provide a management service. I'm pretty sure that any decent defence team would destroy a HO trying to prove either case. Grant Shapps - you know nothing about housing, other than attempting to demonise those who use it. You're typical of the Tories whose lack of empathy or understanding of anyone who wasn't born wealthy has helped to create this uncaring "Big Society".

Ben Owen ● 5354d

WOW - nice find

Kimberley Sklinar ● 5354d

George:Council tenants caught taking part in riots this week will be evicted from their homes, Westminster Council's housing boss announced today.Councillor Jonathan Glanz said: "Social housing is a privilege, not a right and as such we will look to evict social housing tenants convicted for criminal behaviour during the riots."If householders or their children are proven guilty of looting the capital's shops, setting our streets alight or wreaking havoc in our communities then they will face the consequences of their actions."Tenants have a responsibility to uphold standards - if the perpetrators are old enough to be out alone smashing up our streets, they are old enough to be responsible for their eviction. He added: "The vast majority of social tenants are hard-working, law abiding people who pay their taxes and raise their children to have respect for other people and their property but others who chose to declare war on our streets and communities must take responsibility for their own behaviour."Housing minister Grant Shapps has also shown his support for stronger action and today said he will back social landlords who evict tenants involved in any rioting.

F Stone ● 5354d

I was quoting from the Westminster Chronicle - personally I would like every single one of the looters and those who incited the riots to be given long sentences, but in reality that probably won't happen as our prisons are full to capacity.

F Stone ● 5354d

Yet again another statement improperly researched.Westminster are investigating whether they can evict council tenants but there are legal barriers which may allow or may prevent them from doing so.

George Knox ● 5354d

Westminster council is also advising that any council tennant found guilty of rioting will be evicted from their council property.

F Stone ● 5354d

Interesting to note that both Westminster and Highbury courts have referred cases of rioters and looters to Crown Courts for sentencing.As a Magistrates' Court can already impose a six month custodial sentence for a single offence then perhaps some exemplary sentencing will be forthcoming.

Nigel Brooks ● 5355d

Re  some pics i took this morning of Madeley Rd and West Ealing:             xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx      Thanks Frank. I am and have been for a week, in Southampton and have obviously seen the News and kept informed by friends in Ealing but the photos have been most useful. I feel so sorry for Brig in SEBA, with whom I have dealt regularly since he opened over 30 years ago and who had a great personal loss " recently ". He has served Ealing well all that time and to be rewarded this way is a tragedy. I hope he is insured and decides to continue in business. My heart goes out to him.

Tony Price ● 5355d

Just reported on Channel Four that while Muslims in Southall were attending Ramadan night prayers in their mosque last night that security was provided by Sikh Guardians.I think it will be a very brave or congenitally stupid rioter that tries anything in Southall.

Nigel Brooks ● 5355d

Hear! Hear!

Soren Ericsson ● 5355d

Am SO GLAD that Ealing was quiet and patrolled well last night

Kimberley Sklinar ● 5355d

I think we have to assume the latter

George Knox ● 5356d

Interesting The Council Leader said on the radio this morning that he had a police warning at 5pm, and informed local shops. However by the time it kicked off 5 hours later there wasn't enough police in Ealing to cope. Did they underestimate the numbers? or were there just not enough police in the west london area to come to Ealing?

Nick Jenkins ● 5356d

The Salvation Army who give shelter to those in greatest need - how disappointing - our voluntary, charity and community groups need support to bring order out of chaos - please give your time talents and technical skills at www.do-it.org.uk

Lizzie Saunders, Volunteer Centre Manager ● 5356d

Latest Update West Ealing - Salvation Army had it's windows smashed. The whole of Leeland Road shops/cafes/post office is closed. Boots was being completely boarded up with only the door way saved.  Iceland closed as was Cash Converters, SEBA Electronics not much better than this morning.On a lighter note a smashing new cheese shop has opened on Northfields Avenue called Cheddar Deli - Just had some quince cheese with my manchego - divine.

Diane Gill ● 5356d

If it had been your car that had been vandalised you wouldn't be saying that, you would feel more hard done by than anyone regardless of where you live. I think F Stone should have kept their view to themselves. As a W5 resident who experienced the intimidating actions of last night first hand, I can't understand how anyone can mention other areas as being better or worse off and it is ridiculous that postcodes are even brought into the thread. To me it was someone posting for the sake of posting and they would have been better keeping quiet rather than trying to spark up some controversy (which of course they've achieved but I couldn't ignore the comment made).

Matt Brack ● 5356d

F Stone is right and does not deserve this sort of abuse. The damage in Ealing, while bad enough, is not as bad as in other parts of the capital.

Susan Kelly ● 5356d

You need an English language test. You also need to go to Specsavers.

George Knox ● 5356d

And the charity shops?

James Brown ● 5356d

When treated as a whole, Ealing did get off lightly. Other places were far worse hit and did not get as much media coverage as Ealing. THAT is what I was talking about, not the actual damage.

F Stone ● 5356d

Is this comment for real?"Only a few shops were broken into and a couple of cars set alight"It was one of the scariest moments of my life witnessing this and anyone claiming we got off lightly or playing it down is a moron.

Matt Brack ● 5356d

sorry try thishttps://picasaweb.google.com/106393364195414121585/20110808WestEalingAndEalingRiots?feat=email#

Diane Gill ● 5356d

More pictures of Ealing and West Ealinghttps://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=WestEalingNeighbours&target=ALBUM&i\d=5638821944619274417&authkey=Gv1sRgCKGyr4vY5cjdKw&feat=email

Diane Gill ● 5356d

The damage in West Ealing seemed to me, walking along the Broadway this morning, to be targeted at valuable pickings such as mobile phone shops, jewellers and the 'Money Shop' rather than random vandalism. Although Wilkinson's had a window put in, Sainsbury's showed no sign of damage at all.

Susan Kelly ● 5356d

Confirmed Mr Manro, confirmed.some pics i took this morning of Madeley Rd and West Ealing: https://picasaweb.google.com/113983695338895986452/WestEalingMadeleyRoadRiotAftermath982011?authuser=0&feat=directlinkpics of Ealing Haven Green to follow..."enjoy"Frank

Frank Lake ● 5356d

The media are never without bias as to what is reported. When some were killed in the Mumbai bombing there were also riots in Jos, Nigeria. Jos with more than 10 times the Indian deaths did not get one hundredth of the coverage afforded to Mumbai. The reason is not hard to find.

Graham Weeks ● 5356d

I don't think there was more reporting on Ealing this morning looking at BBC breakfast. They showed a lot of Croydon and Birmingham and less of Peckham than Ealing.

Diane Gill ● 5356d

What I was talking about was the media coverage Ealing has got in comparison to other places that have been worse hit by the rioters. As for the "as usual" comment - I haven't posted here for over 5 months.

F Stone ● 5356d

F Stone as usual unable to make a measured assessment, because without going to Ealing West Ealing Hanwell and Northfield - where there are varying degrees of damage - how can any one form a reliable view?So try a bus ride or on yer bike to see what really has happened.We just have to hope that 16,000 instead of 6000 police on the streets will be sufficient.

George Knox ● 5356d

Waitrose is fine, I'm not sure about Sainsbury's as I didn't walk down this bit but I can assure you West Ealing has been hard hit.  Ok no fires, no one has lost their homes but a lot of independent retailers as well as the chains have had stock stolen and windows smashed in.  I have taken lots pictures of last nights wanton carnage and will be posting them on WEN's blog as soon as I get home from work later.  I'll post the link when I completed this.

Diane Gill ● 5356d

i am not sure why people are saying not much happened in ealing.my business was attacked by a mob and ransacked.

Mr Shital Manro ● 5356d

What about reports of Sainsburys being looted? How did Waitrose fair?

F Stone ● 5356d

West Ealing has been as hard hit as the Broadway, no cars on fire but plenty broken into. Many shops ransacked, the Banks have had their windows smashed in, the jewellers, Boots, Wilkinsons, Cash Converters. The morons even had a pop at the 99p store......

James Brown ● 5356d

Someone cynically said to me that the high rate of reporting in Ealing is because the BBC is nearby and many of their staff live in the area.  Easy for them to get to.  Whether that's true or not ...?

Kim Bobsin ● 5356d

I am not saying it isn't and it is terrible what has happened in Ealing Green, but the fact remains a lot more damage happened away from W5 and is hardly mentioned by the media.

F Stone ● 5356d

A crime is a crime no matter WHERE it is!

Jean F Fernandez ● 5356d

The riots that London has witnessed over the last few days is truly shocking and the mob behaviour intolerable, however what I do have to complain about is the bias the media has on Ealing. Only a few shops were broken into and a couple of cars set alight which I frankly have to say is small compared to the wider destruction that has taken place in Croydon, Peckham and the surrounding areas. Is it because the W5 postcode was violated? Perhaps things should be put in perspective by those in W5.Did anything happen in West Ealing as someone suggested during the night? Was Sainsburys in West Ealing looted? If so nothing was divulged. Is Luckhurst's still standing?W5 you cannot compare yourself to those people in Croydon, Peckham etc who have lost their homes, livelihood and community.

F Stone ● 5356d

'Reporters and politicians keep saying we have not had such problems for a long time.'Not since WW2 and then it was destruction from the air.

Graham Weeks ● 5356d

Home Secretary says we police ourselves by consent rather than by bringing in the army and/or water cannon. She says the rioters will be dealt with by robust policing. So according to the BBC there will be double the police on the streets tonight.Reporters and politicians keep saying we have not had such problems for a long time. I think that is wrong unless you go back to the eighteenth century. I cannot EVER recall so many locations being attacked on the same day.Well, I do not consent to what has happened to Ealing.If the police continue to fail in making our streets safe as regards multiple outbreaks of this kind of criminality then I see no conclusion other than the police manpower is insufficient. If that becomes apparent then there is no choice. The army will have to be brought in as well – simply to swell the numbers of people who can give protection. That is the fundamental duty of government.In the meantime let’s have some curfews and we can all relearn how to cook better meals at home.

George Knox ● 5356d

Thanks. I was trying to think of the pub called The Black Horse!

Lucian Lever ● 5357d

The statue outside Lloyds TSB just outside one entrance to the Ealing Broadway Centre.The area may be a crime scene ...but this seems to be meeting point.Annemarie

Editor ● 5357d

where is the black horse?

Lucian Lever ● 5357d

A community clean-up is planned for 10am - meet at Black Horse in Ealingvisit www.riotcleanup.co.uk to help clean up your community #riotcleanupAnnemarie

Editor ● 5357d

I agree, Graham. Bring in the army tonight.

Susan Kelly ● 5357d

The police are unable to ensure the law is kept and people/property protected. Time for the army?

Graham Weeks ● 5357d

Can't sleep, not looking forward to seeing if I have a shop left or not in the morning :(

Tony Luckhurst ● 5357d

SHELL EALING WAS LOOTED TONIGHT

Mr Shital Manro ● 5357d

People are going to wake up to one hell of alot of carnage. Quite unbelievable and frightening. London will be flooded with police tomorrow evening, because they were clearly out numbered today.

Nick Jenkins ● 5357d

Smoke coming from Carphone Warehouse in West Ealing - no police present as yet.

Samantha-Jane Hunt ● 5357d

Latest news on BBC - Seba Electronics in West Ealing has been looted.

Jean F Fernandez ● 5357d

West Ealing lawless!!! Never seen anything like it....

Samantha-Jane Hunt ● 5357d

Wilkins have just modernised their store, now this!

Jean F Fernandez ● 5357d

Sky news must be wrong then?

Jean F Fernandez ● 5357d

Oh yes also roaming around with arms full of stolen goods!

Marie Shelly ● 5357d

rioting in west ealing right now! wilkinsons and lots of other shops being looted mayhem out there scary! police car drove through got jumped on by yobs and sped off. yobs everywhere roaming around with poles, bricks etc

Marie Shelly ● 5357d

Latest from Julian Bell via twitter:Can confirm that the Broadway Shopping Centre & Arcadia in #Ealing are not on fire - windows smashed. #LondonriotsAnnemarie

Editor ● 5357d

Been in Ealing. Watched haven green tesco smashed up and burnt. All the shops there smashed up. Fires in the roads. Bicycles everywhere, glass and rocks everywhere, complete carnage.

Samantha Tubbritt ● 5357d

You absolute tool.I eat in Nandos regularly.  Am I scum or a low life?Sorry if my assessment is a little too direct as opposed to your moronic sweeping statement.

Andy Vaughan ● 5357d

Ealing Broadway Shopping Centre is on fire according to Sky News!

Jean F Fernandez ● 5357d

Latest from Julian Bell:Spoken to #Ealing Borough Commander who tells me that the Police have control of #Ealing Broadway town centreAnnemarie

Editor ● 5357d

trouble in Haven Greenvideo via twitterhttps://twitter.com/#!/khaaan/status/100691329574645760Annemarie

Editor ● 5357d

Riots in Ealing just mentioned on Sky News!

Jean F Fernandez ● 5357d

It is indeed a terrible thing that people have lost homes and businesses. However I think you'll find tthe low life that commit such acts are probably regular visitors to establishments like Nandos after they've spent what little money they have on mobile phones and trainers. The consumer society.Sad indeed.

Al Stuart ● 5357d

tweet from Cllr Jon BallPolice with riot shields advancing from the Mall towards Ealing Broadway station. Lots of sounds of breaking glass. Avoid area. #londonriotsAnnemarie

Editor ● 5357d

tweet from Julian BellIt is now beginning to kick off in #Ealing Broadwaylatest tweet page to be found here:http://www.ealingtoday.co.uk/default.asp?section=info&page=conriots001.htmAnnemarie

Editor ● 5357d

Al - you are a piece of scum to write what you did. Quite sickening. How can you? People have lost homes and lost businesses and all you are interested in is trying to be freakishly funny.

Ben Owen ● 5357d

Just come from Ealing Broadway - not a nice atmosphere. Gangs of kids, faces covered, throwing things at a police line that was trying to move people away... Not pleasant! I believe TK Maxx has been 'done over'!!

Samantha-Jane Hunt ● 5357d

Nandos? ..well thats one less place for he scum to eat.. as that seems to be their regular diet..chicken.

Al Stuart ● 5357d

I would urge care with twitter - not all sources are accurate. Best to use any 'official' source if possible but currently there are no local police sources available for info or to retweet so I'm retweeting Ealing Council Leader Bell as he is pretty official I'd say.http://www.ealingtoday.co.uk/default.asp?section=info&page=conriots001.htmAnnemarie

Editor ● 5357d

Apparently Nandos in Ealing Common has been burnt down. Pointless and needless.

Ben Owen ● 5357d

Latest via Council Leader Julian Bell (twitter)#Ealing Broadway closed off by Police & seemingly quiet http://lockerz.com/s/127862409Annemarie

Editor ● 5357d

the latest from twitter @juliangbell Julian BellRiot Police r now clearing #Ealing Broadway town centreAnnemarie

Editor ● 5357d

This message via twitter from Council Leader Julian Bell#Ealing has a lot of Police & groups of youths playing cat & mouse. Some arrests but no serious trouble yet. http://lockerz.com/s/127856643Annemarie

Editor ● 5357d

As an old Hippie I'm surprising myself by saying there should be zero tolerance to this kind of stuff. The price of a so called multi cultural society. Ruining communities for the sake of a 42 inch telly and a pair of box fresh Nikes. Time for the mayor to act like the mayor of NYC.

Al Stuart ● 5357d

Well done thank you

James Green ● 5357d

I have tried to get an official line from the police or council - but nothing has been forthcoming as yet.I shall keep trying.Annemarie

Editor ● 5357d