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BenGood to hear from you. Hope you are not too depressed about the goings on at the emirates. I have tickets to see the man u game, but fear it will be a wasted trip. As far as the cuts are concerned Ben, we would have started at the top of the organisation, not the bottom as labour have although we would have taken a some of the cuts that Labour have taken, but not needed to sell the assets too. for example, take the albert dane centre. We would most likely have taken that saving, but we would have allowed the voluntary sector take the place over and deliver the services in a way that we probably couldn't. Labour not only took the revenue saving, the had to close the place for the capital receipt so they can build nice new council offices in acton, greenford and southall. The impact theatre group who used to operate out of the Hnawell community centre and provide support to some very vulnerable adutls were on the verge of receiving funding from the lottery I think, to do up one of our buildings. All they needed was a new lease from the council. Labour refused because they needed to sell the place for the capital receipt for their new offices. My colleague Cllr Phil Taylor has done a lot of work on how you can make savings in the library service without closing the smallest ones. See here  http://philtaylor.org.uk/?p=4753Ben, it's not just about where you make the cuts, it is about where you decide to spend money if you decide to spend it at all. Labour are going on a spending spree. They are spending £3.5m on IT upgrades, on top of the £3m spent last year. They are spending £8.7m on three new council offices in southall, greenford and acton£1m on shortening the desks in perceval house so they can fit more staff into the place, then I assume move them out again to the new council offices in acton, greenford and southallThey have also spent £1.7m buying a site behind the cinema in Ealing broadway to help the developer there get the cinema started i believe.  They can find the money when they want to Ben if it is for their priorities, but when it is for something the residents want to keep, like the libraries, then it is just not possible. They are also spending £5m on a car park in Southall. Again Cllr Phil taylor has done a lot of work on his blog on this. They haven't even got a business plan or traffic study to back this decision up. Cllr Bell keeps saying the council has to reduce in size and stay smaller. I have my doubts that he means this. I have done a small piece on this on my own blog http://wwwcolmcostello.blogspot.com/2011/04/smaller-council.htmlI hope that goes some way to answering your question. Yes it is difficult for Labour but they are making wrong decisions here and spending on their priorities and not residents

Colm Costello ● 5468d

Nigel,I get the feeling you're jealous because you were a councillor in the days before allowances were given and so you resent the fact that councillors now get small allowances to help compensate them for the expenses they face in carrying out their duties.I think you underestimate the work involved in being a councillor in a London borough.By the way Parish councillors STILL don't get allowances because they have very little work to do in comparison.So I don't think you know what you're talking about here. I think it's important to emphasise that councillors don't get paid for what they do.They only get allowances and there are not many candidates queueing up to do it because for most people it involves financial loss because it takes up so much time it stops you doing other things, like earning money to pay bills or pay into a pension pot for instance.Many councillors who work full time negotiate reduced working hours with their employer and incur a reduced salary as a result and the allowances don't make up for that loss in many cases.It is also a commitment to sign up for 4 years and for most councillors involves 20-30 hours per week spread over days,evenings and weekends - i.e.a totally different league to the ad-hoc voluntary stuff you say you've done.MPs on the other hand get paid for what they do and get allowances on top. So I strongly refute your cynical nonsense.You won't volunteer any time to save your library when it's needed and yet you expect others to donate 20-30 hours per week for four years with no compensation.Many ordinary people would find that a barrier to being a councillor that they simply could not overcome and that would be a bad thing for democracy. You are a self-righteous hypocrite who spurts ridiculous right-wing propaganda borne of ignorance. It is you who has no idea about'balance'.No-one goes into being a councillor for 'potential earning time' and being a councillor nowadays is a hell of a lot more than volunteering. It's a hefty commitment for 4 years and those that go into it from all parties are committed to what they do and that should be recognised. There's nothing clever about cynicism such as yours. 

John Holt ● 5470d

Nigel’s point was that Councillors in Ealing could and should rightly take a cut like other politicians. He also complained about that stinking bribe of a car park which you oddly have chosen to ignore completely. Combined with other cuts perhaps then we would not have to see a proposal to cut libraries. Also the Council might consider and give a decent amount of time to funding activities in libraries so they do start to make an income and give time for the voluntary sector to see how they could contribute to running our libraries. Not many understand this new concept of Big Society and some assistance from the centre is needed.You suggest the poor little lambs of Councillors work their socks off. Well we have had clear evidence that some do not. Others of course do. However we don’t know how much time any of them spend on council work and so we have to take them on trust. Well for some that is not good enough. The Leader of the Council apparently does not seem to work full time for starters (he has a part time job). As it is some vital Council committee work is planned to be reduced so we get a reduced and poorer service than before. But I really don’t think for a minute that a prospective councillor would be deterred from standing if the basic Allowance – which years ago did not exist at all, were reduced by 10%.Without actually saying so it seems you are trying to suggest that Nigel (who I don’t know from Adam) is grandstanding and that it is OK to be scornful of him working for the community for a long period, which is a heck of a lot more than the vast majority. So to call him nothing special is no less than an insult. And it needs someone special to judge if another is something special or nothing special.You seem to be energised by balding white middle class ranks etc. Have you a problem with colour? I suggest you have a close look at the photos of the Councillors on Ealing’s website. Quite a lot do not fit your description. You may well be bald fat and ugly when you are older. And would anyone be interested in what you look like now? Yes we know the younger generation are struggling even though you are better off than many. The way you go on it seems that my own generation has not experienced the poverty - and worse - of today’s younger people. The younger  generation may mainly not have time to stand as councillors (which generally is probably a great relief), but if the younger generation wish to do some volunteering then unless they are really pressed there is no reason why they should not make a contribution – great or small. My family have done it for generations and long before they became bald. Oddly none were fat.

George Knox ● 5494d

Well done Nigel! I’m so glad to hear you’re doing more for your community than simply standing on your high horse! However, what are you going to do for Northfields Library is the specific question?  Come on now, no more sanctimonious excuses about what you’ve done in the past and about how hard you work now! You’re nothing special and yes, we all do that. Let’s get straight to the point. Will you put yourself up now for volunteering in Northfields Library or do you expect someone else to do it for you?  You should listen to Eric Pickles and then you’ll get a measure of exactly how much effort is needed from the keyboard cynics. So, no more excuses and down to action Nigel, big society and all eh?So you put yourself up for council 20 years ago, so why not now? Councillors get allowances not pay Nigel.  If we expect them to bear the brunt of all the expenses they face then I suppose we can only expect the ranks to be filled with the retired and the rich. Hardly representative? But some might think it’s good that this diverse borough is restricted to being represented by such a narrow group of society I suppose. Small section of society, narrow-minded, conservative with a small ‘c’ agenda perhaps? Maybe you have always been well-off enough to divert some of your potential earning time to voluntarism? Wonderful Nigel, but I think not everybody will be in your fortunate position.I, personally, think it’s a good idea to have a mix of people represent us, we can’t have councillors who are all drawn from the white, balding, male, elderly, middle-class, middle-age spread ranks can we? Younger people have difficulty giving up valuable earning time to ‘local politics and voluntarism’. My partner is a councillor, but not in this borough, but I live here. Councillors that I know dedicate most evenings, most weekends and much more too and have to stump up for all associated expenses themselves, and it comes at a cost to social life, earning potential, family life and leisure time as well as real financial costs. My girlfriend and I have a hefty mortgage to pay for many years to come, and maybe soon some day, a family to raise, and just maybe we can shed a light onto what it’s like for people of our age group, our aspirations, experiences and circumstances, but you seem to want to price ordinary people like us out of being able to represent ordinary people like us. I hope not. Nobody seriously makes money out of being a local councillor so let's not pretend they do and let's keep it open to people from all ranks of society, eh? Please? Susan, my name is John Holt fyi and YES I'm real and I live in Ealing!

John Holt ● 5495d

There is still much further to go there.  We are still carrying too many expensive people in the back office and management hierarchy who don’t want to be out front dealing with people.Phil what you have said above is quite right and shows much of what i believe is wrong. In the NHS we do not need more more or privatisation or markets, but we need to see the operations of organisations simplified. Not with Birtist internal markets but by stripping away management of things that do not require management. A hospital needs certain supplies so therefore a standing order for sheets, materials, etc.. Look at the operation of hospitals 40 years ago and you will see far fewer management posts. To bring the efficiency of the private sector to the public sector is a mantra that means that you end up paying more money to more managers to do less. The law of unintended consequences is very true and we need get away from consultants and get stuck in to realise that the public sector waste has gone up dramatically because of these unintended consequences. Thatcher and others meant well but the reality is that the public sector has been bloated very much by some of the policies that were meant to bring efficiency. Phil you always like to discuss ideas and things and i wonder whether from your experience of council operations and maybe after discussions with a couple of older timer council people you think that there is some mileage in these points? I feel that the current coalition has a big job to do but we will see services cut rather than efficiency improvements.

Peter Chadburn ● 5496d