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How to Write a Rant

How to write a rant.I think we all agree that there is nothing like a good rant. It is therefore pleasing to see that this forum is home to some of the best rants. There are many examples of quality ranting threads – long series of postings, lots of mindless statements, lots of aggression and even some colourful insults. But to date these have been the domain of a select few. Is it not time we widened the pool of people involved and have all of us start and contribute to rants? I wondered if a lack of knowledge and confidence on how to rant was acting as a deterrent. So I thought I’d help.A side note to the noteworthy expert ranters on the forum. This thread is not really for you. Please do not feel insulted by the advise offered here. I am sure you will see the guidance given as 'ranting 101' and view yourself as skilled in all the techniques noted. Just be patient while we get everyone else up to speed.I’ve studied the forum postings over this last few months and I think I may have worked out the optimal formulation for setting up and maintaining a rant. The below has been distilled from a number of rants seen in local forums over the last year – although I must say that the Ealing forum is currently leading the way. We are all very proud.There seems to be only a few simple rules to follow and your contribution to the forum will be a proper rant. It is possible to apply these from any perspective, i.e. left-wing, right-wing, liberal, religious, anti-religious, globalisationist, isolationist, animal rights, human rights, etc. I suggest we all adopt this approach in our contributions to the forum as such ranting must surely be cathartic and a great way to allow pent up emotions vent. The aim of a good rant is two-fold. One it is to incite and stimulate a response. This is important but only a means to an end. The second goal, and the real objective, is to establish the very longest thread of posts. From my observations the aim of a rant is not to present a logical, structured or coherent argument. I am pleased to present these as a series of posts on this thread. Of course if this post or any of its subsequent follow-up posts stimulate a response then we have an interesting dilemma. Do I respond and create a rant – or ignore them and rise above the ranting? Probably the latter. I am here as a guide, not a contributor.Next – setting out the initial statement so that it triggers a long rant.

Alan Clark ● 6342d232 Comments

Not yet. But there may be more mileage yet in the old dog. Continuing the original theme:The wisdom of the ranter.Here are some marvellous gems of wisdom from real and actual rants. I’ve added my attempt at understanding the point they were trying to make and how they might rephrase it.“Get in touch with reality.”  This is always a favourite phrase. It means the person in the post previous has said something that the ranter cannot conceive of being correct. From the ranter’s mindset the previous post has no foundation of fact. Of course, what they really mean to say is something like “get in touch with my reality”. But that sounds a bit rude.“If you want to criticise me, at least be accurate in what I actually said”. This is a great way to stimulate debate. Largely the writing of ranters is so piss poor that it is often difficult to determine exactly what they mean. Also, most responses are about the implications of what is said, as much as the specific statements themselves. Did the ranter ever say “I want all (insert group of choice) out my country”? No. But then the sum of many previous rants might well imply that this is the aim and desire of the ranter. But where is that specific statement? Drat, can’t find it – so the ranter must be a paragon of balance, multi-culturism and virtue.“Viewing life through rose tinted glasses.” This is essentially the same ‘get in touch with reality’. The ranter means that the lens through which others view the world is not just different from his/her own – but also wrong. Or naive. Or unbalanced. Or whatever. Another, perhaps more accurate statement from the ranters might be “or you could view the world through the insecure, twisted, bitter, spiteful lens that I favour”. “I’m not racist.” In the ranters mind, when he/she primarily refers to someone by their nationality or colour or religion, they are making statement of fact not prejudice. What comes across of course is that they are fixated by minorities, appalled that anyone other than true-blooded English are allowed into the country, furious that these incomers are even allowed to group together let alone build a place of worship that isn’t a CoE church hall, angered that anyone with a UK passport and national insurance number can get access to our social services….even if they were not born here, disgusted that there is not some sort of campaign against all these foreigners in our country, stealing our women, eating our food, killing our babies, etc. “Illegal”. This does not mean an act that is defined as against the law as laid out in the statutes and precedents of this fine land.  This is a noun to describe someone who has entered the country and seeks domicile but has not been given leave of residence.  They are, the argument goes, lacking a legal right of residence and are therefore ‘illegal’.  We should extend this naming convention to other groups. The logic goes “you are not something, therefore you are called the un- or il- or non- of what you do not have”. So someone who does not have a driving licence is an unlicensed, and a person without bus pass is a passless, and a person who lacks a mobile phone is a stationary. I’m sure this approach to defining people is not fully utilised.

Alan Clark ● 6320d

'He' - who's he? Me?If so, then, yes, one should feel guilt in these circumstances. Yes I do believe that unthinking, aggressively delivered, insensitive, single-perspective rants have the potential to inflict hurt, offense and insult. Therefore we should all have some care in how we pitch out our views. We should be intelligent and thoughtful enough to be able to make an effective argument for our case without offense or hurt. Even with we hold our believes strongly and passionately. To do any less weakens our case and steps us down a level from the status of reasoned discussion. A couple of steps down is the rant, 10 or 20 steps down is the violent act. This is surely an essential aspect of freedom of speech. Words are powerful so they should be used with care and respect. (Note please - this is not any endorsement violence as an alternative to words.) As such when we exercise our freedom of speech we carry an obligation of care. And that care extends to the reader and audience of our words. (Note please - the option to not open a post is somewhat diluted if the post is within a thread of another topic.) This thread is about the 'how' of our posts, not the 'what'. So no comment on your 'what' (housing, health, terrorism, etc.). Let's leave that until needed - on the appropriate thread.We all have opinions. Some strongly held. Some even carefully researched and thought through. Some biased. Some poorly informed. Some plain half-baked. We should share them - within reasonably limits of decency and repetition. But equally we should be free not to if we don't want to. And those who feel the urge to share should bear in mind the responsibilities that come with that.Last thought. The concept of "they do not, so why should I?" is flawed. Again, one lowers oneself in taking this approach. It seems so sadly inevitable that a reply to this post will read "you speak of respect / responsibility / care / hurt / whatever - what about the respect / etc. shown by the (insert promoter of outrage here)". This is not a response. This is very poor ranting. But still if it notches up some more posts to this record breaking thread then hurrah!

Alan Clark ● 6333d

Just this once. As I said, all the info is lovingly documented in the above threads. But for you, a summary and a critique of the post in question:A weak rant will demonstrate a small number of ranting techniques. A weak rant will tend to have good spelling and grammar. A weak rant may tend towards reasoned logic. It may take a compromise or mutual agreement position. It is likely to keep to a single point or two. These are generic short-comings. To be clear (and we do need clarity) I’m not saying that the post you refer to meets all these short-comings of course.So if we look again (really, do we have to?) at the thread you mention and the post in question then we can highlight its short-comings it specifically has as a rant. Here's what it did well: it made a strong point against a previous post and effectively sustained the thread. Here’s what it could have done better: it lacked personal insults; it over-used the cut&paste technique – and worse, it only cut&paste its own content rather than that of a previous thread; there were no xxx’s kisses; it failed to extend the point to some barely related issue; it lacked any extreme point of view of its own; it failed to widen the insults beyond the previous postings; it failed to pick on unsuspecting innocent parties; it lack excessive capitalisation; one might argue the unusual format was some form of wit (I'm not convinced I'd argue that however). I could go on. These are especially weak attributes when compared to the context of the thread within which it resides. Tragic short-comings for a rant so no-where near nomination levels.I’ve put considerable effort into the previous threads. This took extensive and not always pleasant research. It was not just about writing a few posts. However, I’m sure you will find them of benefit if you absorb the insights and look deep inside yourself about where you can improve.

Alan Clark ● 6335d

Sad indeed that the unchecked hard line ranters have driven out a couple of valued contributors. May these ranters hang their heads in shame that their vitriol has caused this to happen. In fact it is worse than that. It means the end of debate and the end of sharing and reflecting on alternative view points. The rise of the rant is about closing down ideas and quashing opposite points of view. Rather than widening our perspective the ranter aims to only push their agenda. Hold a mirror up to them and they smash it (or just do not recognise the image). Offer an alternative solution or vision and they reject it. Try to structure an argument and they switch back to a limited set of fixed agendas.Are their ideas and notions always wrong? Not necessarily – and of course that depends on ones point of view. Are they right to feel passionate about their themes? Of course, if these are issues they feel strongly about. Do they have sufficient willingness to listen, accommodate, reflect, change, be balanced (the level of willingness needed for a meaningful exchange of ideas)?  On past evidence, it does not seem so. Are they right to repeatedly push the same themes? Up to a point. And perhaps for some of these issues that point has come and gone.So, lest this becomes a rant on my part – let’s close this thread. And in the interests of sanity – let’s follow the lead of the Chiswick forum and move to a local issues only set of postings. Now, who’s lost a cat?

Alan Clark ● 6336d

I really rate this rant effort. From the mandatory copying of a part of a previous post, the xxx kisses, to the insults. You highlight that it is not only like Nero (an awfully bad person) but just little versions of Nero (small, inadequate, etc.). Perfect. And the birds of a feather reference is good too – i.e. bird brain, flock mentality, etc. Just excellent rant techniques.Also the notion that Ealing is burning as a metaphor for your views that the whole district is going to hell in a hand-cart. Just lovely. The image of a blackened Ealing (as in burnt) can also be read as blackened (as in lots of non-whites). You have excelled yourself here. Both extremely provocative, even offensive to many, and of doubtful accuracy. Good ranting.And comparing leftie luvvies to emperors – just a piece of genius ranting. It will not stand up to analysis but sounds so good. Normally we would expect to see the whole patriarchal, oligarchy emperor model as the antithesis of the socialist, equal-society model. Unless you mean that the leftie luvvies are in fact more like hard-line Stalinists and they seek a totalitarian state. But that doesn’t sound very luvvie like to me. I’d have thought, with reference to a term like luvvie, they would seek a commune-based, shared-leadership, free-society model. Now that really sounds like an environment where lentils would be eaten. But it’s not a place where emperors will be found. So you mix up a model like emperors with the luvvie leftie. Whereas in fact the model is more likely to be the wish of the very right of centre. You know – military junta and all that. So we have a confused, inconsistent message. Perfect rant material in other words.And all that brilliance in a couple of sentences. Now I’ve kindly created lots of sentences you can cut & paste in a response. I'll expect lots of x’s as well.

Alan Clark ● 6336d

Of course I appreciate the compliment...but really, you need to work on your postings. These sort of pleasant, positive comments do not make for a rant.So another few thoughts for ranting to help you. These are traps to avoid. These traps are not just ways in which you may let slip that you know the rant is complete bunkum – but also traps to avoid a slow down in replies. You ideally want a rapid run of posts that build to an all time rant record.Traps to avoid when penning a good rant(a) Avoid being reasonable. It may prove too easy to slip off into the realm of reasonableness. Watch for that and edit out all sensible comments.(b) Avoid compliments to the opposite ranter or any admissions of error. These are signs of weakness. Be certain and be strong.(c) Never let the rant go dormant. If there is slow level of responses do not hesitate to pile in with another even more provocative posting. Do not be embarrassed to post another post immediately after your previous one. I know this looks like you either disagree with yourself or are unable to structure a single complete post – but who cares? You have already positioned yourself as an extreme ranter and surely such actions just re-emphasises this. (e) Avoid the temptation to allow good clear language get in the way of raw emotion. Be careful that you do not edit out the very errors that make your rant so authentic.(f) Avoid feeling sorry for the wayward contribution from the well-meaning ‘joe public’ posting. There are foolish people out there who may think the purpose of the forum is for something other than extreme ranting by a vocal few. They may even be tempting to pitch in a little post themselves – perhaps a mild rebuke of your or the other mugs more extreme rantings. Do not tolerate these voices of reason. Remove their credibility by searching out any example of any previous post they have made (say, cat lost on Grove Road) and claim it is clearly a sign they are of the opposite position to you (e.g. cat loving = terrorist loving). Stamp them down with a lot of capitalised words and plenty abuse. It’s the only language they understand.You are now ready. Go forth and rant.

Alan Clark ● 6341d

Grasshopper, you learn.Nice mix of change of thread title, use of exclamation marks and mis-placed capital letters. You even managed to insult an innocent minority. Excellent work.Other tricks to establish credibility as a ‘ranter’As a ranter you really need to be believable. We do not want the general reader or, worse, those replying to your rants (the mugs) to think you are not absolutely sincere in your extreme and wayward views. That would spoil all the fun and dilute the satisfaction. There are many simple tricks that make a rant believable.Mis-spellings and poor grammar. Typically, the image of a person venting an extreme view is someone of a single perspective. These are people who lack the breadth of knowledge or breadth of ability to think about all perspectives and all issues. Let’s be clear – you do not want to be seen as very bright. So make lots of mistakes in your writings.Typos. You really do need to convey the image of thumping out your posts with anger and passion. You want plenty of typos. A person venting does not take time to correct errors – they just want to get that reply posted. Reference to past endeavours. Do not think this need be limited to ‘I fought for my country’ type statements. Consider ‘threw myself under a horse for the right to vote’, or ‘I ignored a working scum miner during the strike so that, etc’. No-one really believes these statements so make them as wild as you like.Use of phrases that imply but do not explicitly state something. It is helpful to spread phrases such as ‘their type’ or ‘of that persuasion’ or ‘certain tendencies’. In this way you present yourself as someone who is desperately trying to hide a dislike of a group of people – and failing miserably. This, of course, is the perfect description of most ranters.Be careful to gradually build your views over time. Any cursory scan of the longer threads will show that the better ranters grow and extend the extremity of their views. The best examples start with a simple but hard position (say, our public transport system treats us like animals) and end up with an extreme rant (such as, it’s the fault of the capitalist global fascist businesses that we do not give up seats to old ladies anymore).This will allow anyone to reach the forum-best lengths of posting threads. And scanning across the usual forums (W4, TW8, etc.) this is currently a target of over 150. Not easy. Next, traps to avoid to help you build the very best threads.

Alan Clark ● 6341d

Good point about the XXXXXX line - see below.This post adds some new skills needed to extend your thread for as long as possible. These are techniques for adding more and more posts to your thread – but of course not actually taking the discussion itself forward in any way.The other key rules for ranting(a) Ignore contradictions. It is important to be simplistic in ranting and to stick to a simplistic theme – even if the supporting arguments appear to be contradictory. (b) Draw on wide and varied sources – the wider the better. For example, if the thread is about the demise of good television and has become stuck on problems with low cost reality shows, then can you not see a way to introduce the rise of fundamentalist terrorism as a contributing factor? Apply any idea to support any perspective or point of view. (c) Aim to get bogged down with your enemy. Good venting will rapidly establish sides – and those on the opposite side will soon make their position clear. Do not aim for common ground, do not seek appeasement, do not try to move the discussion forward constructively.  (d) Bang on about freedom of speech. Make the assumption that a freedom to express your views is the same as a freedom to ignore how your views will be received by others. This means you can now feel free to insult, offend, incite and proclaim.(e) Use poor comparisons. This is easy but relies on completely ignoring circumstances or any factors that actually make the comparison meaningless (and even offensive). If possible pick something that is commonly held to be a clear example. So for social injustice pick the old South African apartheid structure. Your rant might be about you believing you are receiving a below standard level of street cleaning in your area. With a very little effort and imagination you can make the comparison to apartheid and two tier societies. (f) Widen the scope of the thread to partially related topics. It is possible that after 50-60 responses the thread will seem tired. Even the most adept contributor may struggle to maintain indignant venting over this time. The only option here is to use a reply as the launch pad for a new theme. The more tenuous the link the better. So a thread about, say, poor street cleaning can easily be linked to immigration, education, terrorism, bigotry, the current government, etc. Be creative here and use your imagination to really stretch the link.(g) Find an ally of your point of view. This has a two-fold benefit. First, there is another contributor to add to the number of posts. Second, it is likely they will often just post the same point you’ve made, slightly re-worded or using a different image / comparison / insult. This is good because it will further incite the mug(s) responding to your posts.(h) Excessive use of Capital Letters. All of us with even a weak grasp of the English language know that very few words require capitalisation. We mostly call these words Proper Nouns. In a rant do please try to ignore this rule. The best Policy is to use a Capital Letter with every Noun and even a few other Words. (i) Excessive use of exclamation marks!!!! When one is not enough, use five or six. I’m never sure how much more exclaimed a statement can be if it is given more than one exclamation mark but it seems a popular technique.(j) Add in a line of XXXXXXXX. I’m not entirely sure what the purpose of these X’s are. They do not seem to be ‘X’ as in 'kisses' – or are they? However they do seem essential to so use liberally (as in a lot, as opposed to use in a manner typical of the Liberal party).(k) Lastly – throw in some one line posts. These can help rapidly build the number of posts in your thread.You are now ready to aim high and go for the 100+ posting thread. Good luck.

Alan Clark ● 6342d

A new thought. You may want to turn an otherwise innocuous posting into a rant. This is a good way of establishing a long rant – but it carries some challenges. First, the title of the thread might be too innocent and non-contentious. This will not attract the hardened ranters (mugs, as we call them) that you need to work with to build your rant. Second, you do not have full control of the subject matter. There is greater scope for the innocents for maintaining the original topic – those well meaning souls who think the forums are for meaningful exchange of local information. The innocent fools.One caution. Of course, you will not be shown as the owner of the thread. It may become a very long thread – not owned by you. Therefore it will only deliver a small sense of success.There techniques for de-railing such innocent threads are very similar to replying to a reply. So re-read that earleir post as a start point. What else? Well here are some recommendations:Find the tenuous link that allows you to move the topic onto a full rant subject.  Latch onto that like a terrier with a rat. I used the fairly unpleasant example of dog with rat here so as to inspire your own metaphors and similes.  Do not let go even if others try to dissuade you or point out how far off topic you’ve gone. Their opinion is nothing to you – ignore them.Exaggerate any point made that may be just about twisted to support your rant. Street cleaning is shoddy. Luckily many of these low pay menial jobs are now filled by people from other countries. Our fine young (unemployed) local boys would never lower themselves to such work. So here is a clear link: shoddy work = bloody foreigners. It’s like a gift on a plate for a ranter. And the world is full of such potential (and illogical, but who cares) links. Use them to their full extent.Make an outrageous statement in the form of a question. This is one of my favourites. It goes like this. Think of an outrageous statement vaguely linked to the original thread. Re-word it as a question: “Does anyone else think….?” Or “Is it too much to expect…?”Change the title of the thread. This is increasingly common. So a thread that started “Cat lost in Grove Road” ends up having postings (and whole sub-threads) with titles like “Idiotic Thinking”. This is an excellent and effective approach. Your new title allows you to completely re-direct the theme of the original posting. It also has the potential for doubling the length of the original thread. Result.Post. Sit back. Watch for replies.

Alan Clark ● 6342d

My third post in this thread on ranting. This builds on the initial rant and explains how you should tackle the inevitable replies. This is a slightly more tricky area and requires the use of a number of techniques. Your aim is a long and sustained thread of ranting.Replying to the replies 1. It is essential that you copy & paste the reply to your original posting (or at least one sentence) at the top of your reply. And to encapsulate this copied sentence with inverted commas or quotation marks. This gives clear focus to your follow up rant. The commas also serve to imply your distaste for the original comment – as if you would not touch it directly yourself and need to see it in some form of protective wrapper.Replying to the replies 2. Ensure you include a comment on the person (mug) who wrote the reply that clearly aligns them with the worst aspect of others who share their point of view. This is not as complicated as it might appear. If, for example, the mug is expressing a right of centre view then you label them as, say, Daily Wailers. Right of centre = Daily Mail = Daily Wail = person who just moans about how dreadful it all is and didn’t use to be better when there was three-penny pieces and canings at schools. Or if the writer of the reply (the mug) appears to be left of centre then describe them as muesli eating luvvies. Left wing = vegetarian / artistic / gay. Now clearly these are flawed comparisons. Many people with right-wing, free-market views thoroughly support the rise of cheap labour from outside the UK. Equally, it’s tricky to imagine a hard-line trade union leader as vegetarian, or artistic, or gay. Ignore these short-comings in the logic and focus on the implied insults.Replying to the replies 3. Be aggressive in your tone. This is essential as it implies that you personally feel the right to assume the moral high ground. At the very least be indignant. Replying to the replies 4. Insult the other party. This is very important – you are not contributing your views so that you are liked so why even pretend to be nice and polite? Go straight to stating that their views are worthless. Do not try to argue in a structured manner. Favoured phrases should be “only an idiot” or “typical of your weak-minded thinking” or, used sparingly, swear. If this is not possible to find scope for insult from the content of their comments in their reply then consider checking back to previous comments from them – even on unrelated threads.  Again, ignore the lack of logic here, the aim is to deliver an insult and there is no need to worry about continuity or relevance.A note on the use of capitals and exclamation marks. Make liberal use of them in your replies.This should be enough insight into replies for you to establish a basic thread that has a strong foundation of ranting. This will mean it has scope to become a 50+ posting thread at least. But to move to the goal of 100+ posting threads (the ultimate recognition of a true rant) you need a few more skills. Next post – other rules for ranting.

Alan Clark ● 6342d

The next contribution on how to rant.First you need an initial statement. This must be provocative. There is simply no point writing a rant that will not get a reaction. Seek to immediately annoy someone. The preferred targets will those with existing clear views – so check earlier posts for examples. There are plenty of regular contributors who hold traditional right and left wing views and there are others who have clearly demonstrated their own positions. They are practically begging to be wound up. Good areas to target are of course politics and the ills (as you define ills) of society.Look for people who rise to the bait – the point of the rant is to established a long running thread with multiple opportunities for insults and outrageous statements. Therefore you do need a sparring partner (or mug as we like to call them) who will react appropriately. However do not name them in your initial posting. Instead merely present your ranting in terms designed to instigate a response. Good practise here is to phrase one or two points as questions – such as “is it not completely unacceptable that…?”Personally I feel that most of the rants posted to date have been within a relatively small area of topics. The usual suspects of immigration, social benefits, parking, schooling, terrorism and religious extremism have been well aired. This is not to say that these deep, rich seams of ranting do not have plenty of scope for further threads. It is to suggest that we also widen our ranting to new areas. Just remember to pick a topic that will get a reaction. Later I may offer some possible topics. I welcome the thoughts of others and new rant ideas.Final point – pick a suitable title for your post. There seems to one of two approaches open to you here. First is to select a stimulating and provocative title – one that directly raises the core issue in an inflammatory way (e.g. All immigrant children drop litter in our schools). The second is to be (slightly) more subtle. This means either mentioning the topic in a casual way (e.g. school litter falls to new levels), or by asking a question (e.g. is tidiness in schools to much to ask?). Then you go straight to the main issue in the text of the post.You are now ready to pitch your first rant. Pick random topic and wait for the replies. Enjoy. Next – how to reply to the