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Cowboy builders and developers are likely to bring in unknowing workers as are ruthless landlords trying to get their buildings demolished and or updated cheaply without all the proper safety provisions being made for an Asbestos Survey before demolition and dust control measures etc being put in place and asbestos taken out by specialists with suits and breathing apparatus.  The dust has to be kept down.  The asbestos has to be carefully and properly and safely disposed of by experts.There's masses of it still in our schools and the instruction is to not disturb it - difficult with boisterous children.  Teachers must not be allowed to go into schools while workers are there in the holidays to "just get their new classrooms set up for the new term" or to use drawing pins in the wall panels..Mesothelioma is a nasty respiratory disease and I've known teachers and plumbers who've succumbed to it and had their lives shortened much too much by it.  It can take 10 years before your exposure to asbestos it manifests itself.  The worry is also of secondary exposure where those working with asbestos bring its fibres home with them in their clothing.Public buildings have more recently been having problems with RAAC where bits of buildings have been falling in and off and many ceilings are now propped up with acroprops as a result.  Suddenly it got worse with a school ceiling falling in somewhere and a remedial work programme seemed to escalate in speed.  That and the cladding scandal seem to have overtaken other building problems

Philippa Bond ● 3d

Having read through Dominik posts, I don't think Mark is wrong to conclude that he thinks running a car engine to keep the A/C going in any circumstances is morally unacceptable and he isn't wrong either to challenge the potentially dangerous implications of what could happen if people followed this dictum. We have had bus drivers refuse to continue driving on local routes over the last week because of the inadequate A/C in their cabs — and they are quite right to do so because an overheated driver presents a risk to everyone. Drivers, particular professional ones like private hire drivers and people doing deliveries should take every precaution to avoid impairment. While running an engine to keep cool might not be the sin that Dominik thinks it is, it can be an anti-social in normal weather conditions. For a non-electric car there is the issue of noise and, while I have checked and can confirm Mark's contention that the level of pollution in a global context is infinitesimal, it would probably be noticeable if you were standing next to the car or it was parked outside your house. However, people should avoid being judgemental. A few years ago I was waiting in my car to pick up an elderly person to take them to an outpatient appointment. It was very cold rather than very hot so I kept the engine running to maintain the temperature in the car as the passenger was frail and vulnerable to the cold. A man told me to turn the engine off and when I explained the situation to him, he became abusive. I obviously left the engine running as I was past caring about his well-being.

Gordon Southwell ● 15d

To me you are both slightly ridiculous or possibly even dangerous in your attempts to boost your own credentials, in one case to appear anti-woke, in the other to appear environmentally concerned. You are symptomatic of the dumbing down of debate that has become prevalent on social media in which people abandon common sense for the imperative to back 'their side'.It is entirely possible that the notion that some weak minded individual may pick up on the notion that carrying a bottle of water on the tube in hot weather makes him a libtard. We live in an age in which some regard any medical advice given as 'woke' but at least it is primarily them that will suffer the consequences.Insisting that drivers sit in an exceptionally hot car could have consequences for others however. There is no real environmental justification for it as a largish car will generate 180 grams of CO2 in ten minutes plus a barely measurable amount of particulates, carbon monoxide and nitrogen dioxide. An adult male will generate 40 grams of CO2 in that same time.At 40 degrees centigrade, the lower end of the interior of a car if it was parked up in the higher temperatures of last week, the drivers cognitive function would be severely compromised, their work capacity would be at 60% and concentration would be impaired, an increase in heart rate would make motor control more difficult. Just to add 'cracking a window' means opening it and even if windows are fully open, you wouldn't be able to stop the inside of the car reaching these temperatures. For this reason studies across the globe have confirmed a correlation between road traffic collisions and temperature.A 2020 study in the journal Environmental Research found that accident risk increased by ~5% for each 1°C rise above 25°C on hot days in the UK.In the U.S. and Europe, police records consistently show more crashes and fatalities on unusually hot days, controlling for traffic volume.I doubt either Rosco or Dominik are particularly bothered by the potential consequences of what they say, but we all should ignore them both.

Mark Evans ● 17d

Hi Mark, yes I have admitted I probably sound preachy but what should I do? I gave an example of fully grown adults sitting in their vehicles with the engine running oblivious to how damaging it is to the environment all so that they don’t have to get out and stay cool in the shade. It’s just irresponsible behaviour in my opinion.I appreciate your references to studies on dehydration. So many comments on this forum have absolutely no factual references to back them up that it’s refreshing to see, so thanks again. I notice one is from American Academy of Pediatrics, and I would add that as far as children’s safety goes, especially very young children, I’m going to defer to the parents or carers. It wasn’t quite clear initially that you were referring to children in the car. Of course idling cars are just as detrimental to health (‘the pollution from an idling car tends to gather a metre off the ground, so children are particularly vulnerable’, https://www.solihull.gov.uk/health-and-wellbeing/air-quality-overview/vehicle-idling) however, as you rightly say, life is full of nuance and the need to compromise.Interestingly, I have read before about the effects of air-conditioning and how it can contribute to dehydration. This is probably something many people don’t realise. I only really first noticed it when wearing contact lenses in air-conditioned places, and they would dry out and get stuck to my eyeballs. I suppose the lesson here drinking water is the best way to avoid the symptoms of dehydration you mentioned, whether in a hot place or an air-conditioned one. (https://www.fundacionmapfre.org/en/blog/keeping-children-well-hydrated-when-travelling/)Cars get very hot inside, I know. Although rather than ‘cracking a window open’, why not open all of them fully? Just an idea.

Dominik Klimowski ● 17d