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Leighton Road, West Ealing

Talk about using a sledge hammer to crack a non-existent nut!At www.ealing.gov.uk/elthorne-leighton you will discover two 'improvement' options are suggested at the eastern end of Leighton Road.Option 1 turns the southern section of Seaford Road into two way dedicated cycle lanes. Option 2 blocks the direct road link between Leighton Road and Northfield Avenue.The documentation supporting these options is pages and pages of photos, statistics, diagrams and platitudes. The sheer volume of it probably rivals the supporting documentation used in the D Day Landing in France during WWII.I received two copies of the undated 3 page letter sent to 100s of residents. No options' details just a pointer to the web site. There's also an 8 hour(!) public meeting planned for Monday 27 January 2025 at the small Northfield Community Library. It runs for 11am to 7pm. It's called a 'drop-in' style session. This is not a proper public meeting. A proper public meeting is where an expert - say Councillor Driscoll - is up front with slides and or large display panels. He presents the Council case and than the 100+ residents are allowed to ask questions for an hour. There needs to be an effective amplified sound system with roving mikes so that every one can hear the questions and the answers.The budget for the Leighton Road-Elthorne Park Road improvement project is £250,000. Surely this money could have been /should have been spent alleviative some real problems in Ealing - instead of spending money on 'addressing' unspecified, unsubstantiated 'historic traffic and safety issues'.

Eric Alan Leach ● 127d143 Comments

Wow, Paul and Ben both in full mouth-frothing rant mode this morning. Must be the time of the month.Ben, Louise Haigh is as complicit in the environmental con as the rest of the cabinet now that a third runway at Heathrow has been given the go-ahead. To push carbon emissions reduction as a key olive one day and then encourage huge creases in aircraft emissions the next is somewhat dim, even by a politician’s low standards.As for your rant about one mile cycle trips, you again show your utter ignorance of day-to-day life for most people. A motor vehicle is a tool that makes life easier for many. It’s why they have them. For a lot of people it’s an economic necessity, enabling them to work. For others it’s how they get their weekly shop at the supermarket (especially those ones that don’t deliver). There are myriad valid reasons why someone might make a short car trip. Your attempts to second guess that are futile. Nobody is doing anything illegal or even morally corrupt. That’s in your tiny mind.But the truth is that a large proportion of people will walk to their local shops if they have time, and time is the crucial element here. You seem to have rather a lot of it in your hands. Those with busier lives usually have to make best use of the limited time available to do things.As for Paul, more fantasy about Chiswick. It’s always had a higher proportion of cyclists than other areas because it’s a wealthy area. A lot of the cycle traffic on the Hugh Road now is Deliveroo and similar delivery riders. Very quiet at certain times of day.Bud times along there have increased drastically. At peak times it can’t die an hour to get from Hammersmith to south Ealing, mainly because of the new road layout. They also have to warn passengers about the dangers of cyclists when alighting. Just fancy that!Nigel is correct that not many people drive along the High Road now. Quicker to use Wellesley to the south.As for shops and businesses closing? Other economic factors are at play, but some have cited the cycleway as a factor. Rock and Rose being the latest to do so. This is what the owner Lorraine Angliss told the Chiswick Calendar:‘While Lorraine told us the restaurant was probably not in the right place at the right time and was casuality of national economic trends, she also said poor traffic management along the High Road and the impact of regular Sunday markets did not make the business’s life any easier.“The High Road, as far as I’m concerned, is congested all of the time. Parking is a nightmare. They brought Sunday markets in which took a big chunk of our Sunday trading. It just wasn’t doable.”Just fancy that!!!And I do hope that you didn’t get aggressive with all those cyclists making the cycleway congested this morning. I’ve seen you get quite nasty when out on your bike. Too many testosterone patches…;)

Simon Hayes ● 122d

15 minute cities, Peter, or ‘15 minute neighbourhoods’ as they’re also known as, are areas designed for people to have the basic amenities within 15 minutes walk, more or less. These include doctors, schools, green spaces, food shops, bus stops and tube stations. Many places in London are like that already, although over the past decades communities have changed as local shops, sports clubs, and other services moved further away, replaced by large supermarkets and shopping centres.For those who drive to these places it’s maybe no big deal, but for the majority having to travel 30. 40 minutes, an hour or more is certainly not convenient and definitely not supportive of the community or local business.Here in Ealing we are gradually getting back to a more community-based way of life, with plenty of local events and cinemas we can walk to (no more schlepping to Westfield). There are still many shops we’ve lost in West Ealing and Northfield Avenue, but there have been some gains too. There is also no shortage of good schools.This is what ‘15 minute city’ means. It works very well in Paris (again, please let me know where you get your information from Nigel), a city which is known for civil protest when people are given something they don’t want.Over here there is more resistance due to conspiracy theories based around ‘not being allowed to leave your district’. Of course you can travel outside of the 15 minute area. What do you think will happen? This isn’t ’Passport to Pimlico’.

Dominik Klimowski ● 123d

Angela, are you really this blinkered in real life? And you and your husband come across as exactly the self-satisfied, middle class cycle lobbyists who always think they know best.How do you think most people get around London? Public transport is the preferred option. Children get free bus travel and low fares on the Tube. Are you unaware of that? They don’t need to be supplied with a bike, which can be expensive. A lot of people walk to local things but you just assume they hop in the car to do so. It’s a lazy assumption.You are really straying into the realms of whataboutery with this latest line of ‘reasoning’. Don’t you think improving the broken, uneven and dangerous pavements all over the borough would benefit those vulnerable groups you claim to care about? Maybe clearing the fallen leaves away instead of letting them rot into slippery morasses of slime for months would make them safer too.Why does it not occur to you that a high percentage of the vehicles you see on the roads are not cars? Don’t you notice the vans and lorries? Probably not. LTNs don’t EV egg n reduce car ownership. The one in Grove Park in Chiswick is still very busy with residents driving their vehicles around. And, of course, endangering life every time they do so.I’m not ‘lobbying for cars’ either. I’m against the closure of roads that are paid for through tax and should be maintained for use by all. Every bit of evidence shows that closing a road increases traffic on adjoining roads. The Swyncombe Avenue restriction has resulted in more traffic on Haslemere, and probably contributed to traffic volumes on Elthorne and Leighton. It’s called a road NETWORK for a reason.If your concern is air pollution perhaps you should write to Sadiq Khan and ask him to stop being ferried about in his diesel 4x4. Or join the campaign against a third runway at Heathrow. Ealing doesn’t even monitor pollution in most of the borough, and where it does the levels are consistently low . This link might assist you to understand: https://www.cleanairealing.co.uk/You do seem to enjoy a very idealistic view of the world. Perhaps you should try to understand why your ideas aren’t wildly popular with the majority of people.

Simon Hayes ● 124d

Hardly rocket science. If you live in the district or the neighbourhood you avoid Leighton Road and Enthrone Park road as best as possible.But it has a very important Health facility that services all the district not just a few streets nearby and a Pharmacy that also services a district not a small vicinity.If you ride a bike as I have since school it is very east to avoid the busier streets and get from key point to key point and like anyone in a car get from where they need to go to and back.As for the ludicrous assumption that one driver in a car is somehow causing delays.How do you know what or why that one person in that one car is doing?This is the crass assumption that cannot be answered with out an old style full road census.It could be a person delivering a curry, or a person picking up or dropping off a patient or an elderly or less able person family member or such.It could be a person with tools or weight work items in the boot, out of sight.It could be a person with medicines to deliver, or with samples to get to a lab.It could be a drug courier, it could be a people smuggler.Fact is no-one actually knows because unless you stop and ask you simply don't know.Like most consultancies cashing in that's too much like hard work so do modelling and creating algorithms on other peoples data from anywhere on the planet and make assumptions.The last time this was conducted was at the beginning of the Tram consultation but when the results revealed a huge amount of working vehicles that were not vans or Commercial vehicles and the amount of items carried that are restricted from carriage on public transport, quietly dropped.The reality did not match the ideals.But hey! Plenty of gullible out there who are so easily led by those who have agendas and masters to please.

Raymond Havelock ● 126d

Seems to have entirely missed out the GP surgery in Elthorne Park road that has its origins in Elers Road and later in Wyndham Road. Many of its core patients reside east of Northfields Ave and around Lammas park.The pavements along Leighton Road and Elthorne Park Road is poor and riddled with obstructions. The distances are not short - especially if you are a patient requiring more visits - which generally are older citizens etc.Have the patients - who are still local residents of this district been consulted?The staff who work there?The services that support it and the nearby Pharmacy?All these 'initiatives' simple shift and create more and more problems costing time and money.All those unpaid volunteers who support a lot of the unseen and unheard of this district.Have those who are not glued to apps and online dependency been consulted or invited to participate in any way?It also appears that those who have been given an input were cherry picked and vetted.Not the first time.Similar seems to also apply to the 'faux' consultation at Lammas Park where again nobody from any local groups neighbourhood watched and small street residents associations, some of which have existed for over 50 years have had any communication or attendance from ward councillors.It's sly divide and rule and about as undemocratic as one can get.And the definition of Rat Running. LBE deem someone driving from St Mary's Road to Boston Manor Road via Leighton Road or any road west of Northfields as  "non local".So those who live west of Northfields Ave and drive across it to get to South Ealing or Ealing Green or beyond must equally be..er non local and thus rat runners.So lets bung up Elers Road and all the other routes.This is exactly what they are planning and its good old divide and rule.Clearly being dictated by people who do not travel to work or rely on carers and volunteers to name just a few.Or is it veiled ageism?

Raymond Havelock ● 126d