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You always cite your personal experience as the only valid viewpoint, Dominik. It's not.There are thousands of businesses in London that rely on the road network to operate efficiently. The road network has been so messed about with that it's becoming impossible to do that, with a consequent impact on profitablity. Delivery drivers, in particular, are finding the limits and restrictions very difficult, hence the dumping of parcels on doorsteps (or even the wrong address) and the subsequent increase in parcel thefts.You probably haven't quite understood the argument here. 20mph is fine for residential side roads, but it's not appropriate for main and trunk roads, where pedestrian interaction is minimal. It's why they reversed the policy in Wales.Talking about average speeds is a red herring. The speeds on many stretches of road is well below 20mph. That's why you get incidents of speeding on emptier parts of the network, or indeed on side roads (And I don't condone that). It's often business vehicles that are doing this, rather than private cars.It's obvious that reducing speeds to a crawl will reduce the consequences of any accident, so that's not really an argument. Improving driving skills would be more beneficial to everyone. I've long said that there should be compulsory retesting of drivers after a certain period of time, and those who fail would be taken off the roads.As always, I'd ask you, or Paul or Ben, to provide detailed statistics of accidents and casualties on the roads, such as the part of the Uxbridge Road outside the hospital.I suspect that you won't because rather like hhe deadly Dr Aldred, there's virtually nothing to support your case.

Simon Hayes ● 128d

Vlod, what I am saying is that there would be no need to explain the benefits of 20 miles per hour if drivers already recognised that their average speed was 20mph anyway.But, since you so gently asked, how many benefits do you want me to list? Below are some of them, in no particular order but as they come to mind.Reducing collisions - discussed at length on this thread and elsewhere;Healthier environment - lower speeds equals lower carbon emissions, improves air quality, and makes streets safer for pedestrians. This point has been made many times!;Encourages sustainable travel - yes,  believe it or not lower speeds makes roads more inviting for walking, cycling, and public transport. Traffic flows without braking;Safer for pedestrians - when you are not driving you are a pedestrian. Lower speeds makes it less likely that you will be injured or killed by a driver - a direct benefit to you;Oh go on then -  20mph roads are safer for cyclists! Not just safer for adults but Sammy too. Sammy, cycling to school, is less likely to be injured or killed. Sammy is someone's son, brother, cousin, friend; It reduces the dominance of motor vehicles since people are catching on that it can be quicker to cycle or take the bus, when it uses a bus lane!Increases the amount of fines for driving at inappropriate speeds - nothing can be done where 28mph on a road that has a 30mph speed is way too fast for the conditions. However, the same speed in the same conditions on a 20mph speed limit enhances the chances of a fine, a speed awareness course or points on licence to point out to the driver the error of their ways.

Ben Owen ● 130d