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Nah, there's definitely no “family voting” or intimidation or any other corrupt practices affecting & skewing our fantastic, wonderful, rigorous & robust voting system that cannot be tampered with.  🤣G Southwell 20/6/26 - “The increased questioning of the integrity of postal voting, without any evidence being presented that there are any significant problems,................ postal voting is being smeared in every democracy and, what concerned nobody previously, becomes amplified by useful idiocy on social media. This thread provides a good example of how a falsehood, if repeated often enough and appealing to a person's existing prejudices, can be accepted as an absolute fact by some. …..............We may be at the foothills of this attempt to chip away at confidence in the democratic process  …..”Only a fool would deny we don't have a problem with the integrity of our voting system and that we need to address it immediately.===========================================================As the elections watchdog is urged to investigate illegal ‘family voting’... It saddens me to say it, but the only way we can safeguard our precious democracy is to have police officers at every polling station.By MATT GOODWIN Published: 22:00, 22 August 2026 Updated: 00:02, 23 August 2026When I was campaigning in the run-up to the Gorton and Denton by-election in February, it became blatantly obvious to me that dark and sinister forces were at work.It wasn’t just the intimidating atmosphere out on the streets of Manchester where I went door-to-door canvassing as the prospective parliamentary candidate for Reform UK under the menacing gaze of groups of mainly young Muslim men.Or even the rumours of under-hand deals being struck between other political parties and local so-called community elders.Far more disturbing was what my colleagues and I witnessed at the polling stations.I’m talking about husbands and fathers standing by voting booths, instructing their wives and adult children exactly where to put their mark on the ballot paper. In many cases these coercive patriarchs might as well have had the pen in their own hands.So while new and deeply disturbing revelations of widespread and illicit ‘family voting’ in Birmingham during May’s local elections will leave many Britons appalled, they come as no shock to me.As revealed by the Daily Mail in a damning report yesterday, at recent elections Birmingham City Council staff witnessed attempts to get round the secret ballot at no fewer than 50 of its polling stations.Beleaguered electoral officers had to repeatedly tell voters it was against the law to enter a booth with a relative and tell them how to vote. Others witnessed one man trying to influence voting through ‘Islamic gestures, blinking eyes, hand signals’, and another clutching ‘all the poll cards’ for his family and ‘advising’ each on how to vote.You’d think it would go without saying that voters colluding or conferring or advising each other on voting is illegal under the 2023 Ballot Secrecy Act.But these were exactly the kind of illegal practices I warned about six months ago in Manchester, where it emerged after the polls closed that ‘family voting’ took place in 68 per cent of polling stations in Gorton and Denton.Back then, my attempts to red-flag the insidious creep of these unlawful voting practices fell on deaf ears. I was simply accused of sour grapes after coming second to Hannah Spencer, who is now the constituency’s Green Party MP.But, as I said at the time, what is going on is nothing less than an assault on, not just our democracy, but Britain itself. We are facing a major problem in this country, one which threatens to strike at the heart of everything we hold dear. It’s time to wake up and act.And I’m not alone in issuing this urgent clarion call. The official – and independent – election observer group Democracy Volunteers said it witnessed 291 potential breaches of the secret ballot across the UK at the May elections.In February, at the Gorton and Denton by-election, this impartial group said it witnessed the highest amount of ‘family voting’ in its ten-year history, at 15 out of the 22 polling stations at which they had observers across the constituency. They were so alarmed, they took the rare step of publishing their findings as soon as the polls closed.In February, Greater Manchester Police took no action after saying it found ‘no evidence’ of the law being broken.It has since launched an investigation into alleged offences during the May local elections in Tameside, a Manchester metropolitan borough, amid concerns about how candidates were put forward and represented in the ward. Six arrests have been made.It is no longer plausible to deny that we have a serious problem with British democracy being hijacked by sectarianism, with voters in some areas of the country putting their allegiance to a particular religion, tribe or clan, ahead of their loyalty to this country. In ten of the 14 wards that make up the Gorton and Denton seat, more than one in five people was born overseas. In one area, Longsight, close to half the population are foreign-born.You can bet that if this is happening in Manchester and Birmingham then it will also be going on in Bradford, in Oldham, in Blackburn and in London, entire cities where elections are being rigged along sectarian lines.On some nights while canvassing local voters in Gorton and Denton, I walked along streets where not a single person could speak English and where people living in homes did not match official records. Community pressures, and the spectre of family voting, in these areas were plain to see.My early warnings may have been ignored but the fact that Democracy Volunteers raised the alarm and Greater Manchester Police have made arrests is evidence of this national crisis.We are never going to save Britain if we don’t first safeguard our precious democracy. To do that, I believe the Government urgently needs to take three steps.The first is to dramatically restrict postal voting.It was Tony Blair who opened up the system to anyone who wanted to vote by post back in 2001, in the cynical belief that it would garner more votes for Labour. In doing so, he ignored warnings at the time from a High Court judge that it was ‘wide open to fraud’ and opened up our democracy to all kinds of insidious influences.For years, there has been disturbing evidence that this is being used to game the system, allowing particular minority communities to engage in block voting away from the watchful eye of independent observers in polling stations.To stamp out this practice, future postal votes should be restricted, as they once were, to those who genuinely need them, such as people serving abroad in the military and those who, due to disability, are physically unable to get to a polling station.Secondly, we need to bring about an end to Commonwealth voting rights. Around 1.7million people from countries such as Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica and India – who, despite the fact that they are not even British citizens, have the right to vote at British elections – have, according to the Office for National Statistics, registered to do so. It is a practice which most right-minded people would regard as absurd.Finally, we need to take steps to ensure that what I and others witnessed in Gorton and Denton, and what has now been uncovered in Birmingham, cannot happen in the future. It saddens me to say this but if, as a democracy, that means we have to have police in every polling station standing alongside independent observers then so be it.If we fail to act, then entire areas of the UK will fall under the influence of networks built around religious and clan identities.We need political leaders in Westminster to stamp this out now; to defend our ancient liberties and keep a grip on one of the great pillars of our national life.British democracy is a cherished part of who we are. It’s time to push back before it’s too late.https://www.dailymail.com/debate/article-16072601/only-way-safeguard-democracy-police-polls-MATTHEW-GOODWIN.html

Rosco White ● 1d

No, there's no family voting in the UK, it just doesn't happen, our voting system is rigorous & robust to prevent such fraudulent behaviour, it's all Far Right Slander/Libel.                  🤣    21/8/26The elections watchdog has been urged to investigate after the country's biggest town hall admitted the full scale of illegal 'family voting'.Birmingham City Council revealed staff witnessed attempts to breach the secret ballot at 50 polling stations in May's local elections.A list of incidents obtained by the Daily Mail showed presiding officers repeatedly had to tell voters it is against the law to enter a booth with someone else and tell them which candidate to pick - and received abuse in return.In the city's Jewellery Quarter, voters 'became aggressive' with an officer after being told not to talk to each other in polling booths.A man in Balsall Heath was said to be 'trying continuously' to 'influence voters' - and when stopped he accused officials of fraud.The presiding officer said he had been 'so stressed and under pressure' from the man, while another family 'was rude'. In another part of the inner-city area, a man was witnessed trying to 'influence voting' through 'Islamic gestures, blinking eyes, hand signals'.A woman nearby 'was aggressive' when told not to talk or show her vote.Elsewhere a father was seen holding 'all the poll cards' for his relatives and 'was advising' each one on how to vote'. The presiding officer in Garretts Green told them to go into separate booths but conceded: 'It was clear that votes were being influenced.'Staff at 50 polling stations across Birmingham City Council noted instances of 'family voting', where individuals enter polling booths together, instruct relatives on how to vote, or attempt to communicate inside the boothStaff at 50 polling stations across Birmingham City Council noted instances of 'family voting', where individuals enter polling booths together, instruct relatives on how to vote, or attempt to communicate inside the boothReform UK candidates Chris Steele and Rajbir Singh celebrate after being elected during the count for the Birmingham Council 2026 local electionsReform UK candidates Chris Steele and Rajbir Singh celebrate after being elected during the count for the Birmingham Council 2026 local electionsIn Handsworth, at the centre of a row over segregation last year, voters were said to 'just switch language' when told to 'stop collaborating'. The presiding officer wrote in a report: 'Conferring, did not listen when asked to stop...changed language when advised to vote independently.'And in Hall Green South, one woman 'tried several times to talk to husband, showing him who to vote [sic]'. She then tried to 'point where to vote', forcing the presiding officer to 'place my arm out to stop her'. In Quinton, a woman went into the booth with her daughter and told staff 'she wanted to make sure' she 'voted correctly'.One presiding officer said that when he told husbands and wives that talking in booths was a criminal offence, most men were apologetic and it was 'mainly the women who took umbrage'.This newspaper obtained the full list under freedom of information after the council initially provided only a brief summary.On Friday, Tory peer and leading pollster Lord Hayward, who introduced the 2023 law that makes it an offence to attempt to influence voting in polling booths, said: 'I hope the Electoral Commission will acknowledge that attempts at breaching the secret ballot clearly remain a problem and needs to be investigated.'I do not believe this is the only council where this was a problem and hope the Commission will identify where else this arose and whether the polling station officers were as active as they were in Birmingham.'It comes after a row over family voting at the Gorton and Denton by-election this year. Observers saw 'extremely high' levels but Greater Manchester Police said it had found 'no evidence'.Democracy Volunteers observers said they saw 291 potential breaches of the secret ballot in the UK at the May elections.The Electoral Commission said: 'We provide guidance and support... to help protect the integrity of elections, and work with police to ensure allegations of electoral abuse and intimidation are treated seriously. 'We are gathering evidence on the... May 2026 elections and will publish our findings in the coming weeks.'A Birmingham City Council spokesman said last night: 'The Returning Officer has passed on all available observations of potential family voting to the police, and we understand the police have decided to take no further action.'West Midlands Police were approached for comment.https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16071065/The-scale-illegal-family-voting-Birmingham-polls-election-watchdog-urged-investigate.html

Rosco White ● 2d

The increased questioning of the integrity of postal voting, without any evidence being presented that there are any significant problems, seems to have its origins in the Trump campaign's activity in Georgia. They have repeatedly made claims about postal voter fraud, particularly among the black community there, on a scale to have an impact on results. These claims have been investigated time and time again, including by Republican elected officials in the state, and found to be totally baseless. What has happened is that the Russians appear to be continuing to push the claims hard through their disinformation network and generalising them so that postal voting is being smeared in every democracy and, what concerned nobody previously, becomes amplified by useful idiocy on social media. This thread provides a good example of how a falsehood, if repeated often enough and appealing to a person's existing prejudices, can be accepted as an absolute fact by some. We may be at the foothills of this attempt to chip away at confidence in the democratic process. A Trump win in the American election which would probably be followed by a Russian victory in the war in Ukraine and an increase in confidence among those states hostile to our way of life. With most western government's struggling with slow economic growth and huge debt burdens, democratically elected government's will probably have to deliver lots of bad news and this looks set to be a very difficult period for us all.

Gordon Southwell ● 795d

The Electoral Commission has a reputation for high standards so you are right to say they are known for being accurate and correct and therefore we should trust their conclusion that voter fraud is not significant and that the machinery of our democracy is sound. Data on voting methods is ultimately put into the public domain on a ward level so it would be very easy to identify fraud if it was 'rife'. You don't explain why you think postal voting is particular vulnerable to fraud but that could be because you have never  gone through the process. When you apply there is a registration check which verifies the details against the electoral register and cross checks the signature you gave when you registered to vote. Any doubts about the authenticity means the application will be rejected even if it is just a minor discrepancy in the details provided. Each postal vote is issued with a unique identifier, making it easier to track and verify votes. In some instances, the voter's signature on the security statement must be witnessed by another person, adding an extra layer of verification. Upon receipt, postal votes are checked for the correct details and any irregularities. Votes with mismatched information or missing elements are not counted. Election officials receive training to recognize and handle suspicious activities and potential fraud.Of course the system doesn't totally preclude the chances of fraud but neither does in person voting, however a lot of effort would go into fraudulently casting a single vote and doing it on a large scale would be close to impossible.Questioning the integrity of our democratic processes without any actual evidence is profoundly unpatriotic as you are pushing a line of argument that Putin and his shills are currently trying to get people to believe. Check your facts before parroting what the enemies of this country are telling you.

Mark Evans ● 796d