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Fly Tipping

Last week, fly tipping took place in a private estate in Northolt West End. The police were contacted but said it was nothing to do with them and we should contact the council, even though we supplied the registration number and a photo of the miscreant's van. I contacted the three councillors in Northolt West End but received absolutely no response. Somebody else contacted the Council who said it was none of their business and might issue an order for us to remove the dumped rubbish. Some advice would be appreciated as our Metropolitan Police seems no longer interested in criminal activity even when being supplied with evidence of who is the offender.

Ian Fergus ● 1342d18 Comments

And now that trespassers may truly be prosecuted perhaps a money claim online might work to recover the clean-up costs?I'm guessing that it would be an uphill battle all the way though.For example, how does an ordinary citizen get the name and address details of a vehicle owner out of DVLA that they seem only too happy to spray out willy nilly to car parking companies?And then there would be the costs of actually recovering any monies awarded as a result of the judgement.Bring back debtor's prison is what I say.

Tony Colliver ● 1329d

I'm pleased to read that your MP is taking an interest.

Philippa Bond ● 1334d

Our Waste Authority - West London Waste Authority - are working with Anyjunk to collect bulky waste.  Take a look at the website:Take a look at their website:https://westlondonwaste.gov.uk/There are some ways to reduce your waste and a list of charities who will take unwanted furniture etc.  Some of these will collect but generally all upholstered furniture needs to have a fire labels.  Hopefully WLWA will keep updating this website.  If you know of other charities then please let them know.  The more ways we can Repair and Repurpose and and Reuse the longer the life of the earth's finite resources can be maintained.We should be working towards a Circular Economy finding new uses and using what we no longer want as a resource and away from the Buy-Use-Throw Away life we have been living.Hippobags and similar are another method and are available from the DIY stores where you pay for collection when you buy them. Do check the instructions as to where you can place them before buying.Check each of the websites from the WLWA to see whether you can take your waste and recycling there and how and what ID you will need.Sometimes it is just easier to ask a neighbour whether you can put an extra bag of waste or extra recycling in their bin.Make sure that any builders and workmen you use are registered as licensed waste collectors and that they price for legally taking away any building waste as it is not counted as household waste.  Household waste is included in your Council Tax but Business waste isn't.  DIY waste isn't. Check the websites. Arrange to have redundant white goods taken away by the provider of the new white goods.  This often costs a small fee but less than a Bulky Waste collection.If it something that you don't want that is perfectly serviceable offer it on Freecycle/Freegle where whoever wants it has to take it away.  www.trashnothing,com is a good interface for this but there are also websites like this one, Olio, Next Door, Preloved and more.If your waste is found dumped and is traced back to you then you can be very heaviy fined.  We then all end up paying for it all over again for it to be cleared in our Council Tax. 

Philippa Bond ● 1334d

IF/ WHEN YOU DO GET RUBBISH TAKEN AWAY FROM YOUR HOME, PLEASE ENSURE THE PEOPLE HAVE A LICenCE NUMBER AS so many do not.

Simon Wycombe ● 1335d

And Rosco White's boring replies are always to deny anything.We get enough of that from Downing Street.

Philippa Bond ● 1337d

Ms Bond's clockwork, boring solution to ALL Society's ills ..... "It's the Tory cuts!"  🤣

Rosco White ● 1337d

You are posting rehashed press releases and PR puffs that get published out of lazy journalism. Sadly all papers and magazines are now full of this as it's cheap and easy. Almost everything is questionable and bereft of actual fact.The onus now is for individuals to read as many reports and documents to get any kind of clear picture.Reality is very few have the time or inclination to read that. And they know it.

Raymond Havelock ● 1337d

Sorry I no longer follow blind links where posters are too lazy to add a precis.

N V Brooks ● 1337d

https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/regulatory-and-enforcement/406-regulatory-news/45790-environment-agency-warns-it-does-not-have-resources-to-carry-out-enforcement-work-effectively-report

Philippa Bond ● 1337d

Please re-read the Monbiot article, even he acknowledges that the problem is as a result of forty years of incompetent political meddling, not just 5he last ten.

N V Brooks ● 1337d

https://www.waterbriefing.org/home/regulation-and-legislation/item/18090-environment-agency-chief-says-better-regulation-not-deregulation-needed-to-protect-environment-and-boost-economy10 years of cuts and selective investigation are damaging the environment

Philippa Bond ● 1337d

You are correct N V Brooks.Sadly.And unfortunately .......................

Rosco White ● 1338d

A typical piece of Monbiot anti-Government polemic aleit, at least acknowledging, the complicity of Labour in cutting red tape to the point where it is totally ineffective. This should not be a party political issue but, sadly, while we have the unfunny clown and the (barely) animated tailor's shop dummy leading our two main parties I despair that anything useful will happen.

N V Brooks ● 1338d

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/24/waste-dumping-uk-environmentand I'm sure there is more elsewhere!

Philippa Bond ● 1338d

Is it not a Bye-Law offence on public land? On private land it's a trespass offence

Raymond Havelock ● 1340d

My understanding is that all fly tipping is illegal and should be reported to the police, the local council and possibly the Environment Agency. What they then do about it is another matter, and a civil action or a private prosecution might have to be considered.  The tough bit is, if it's tipped on private land, the victim becomes responsible for clearing it up - and the advice on some websites is to 'erect a fence or install a gate'!

Peter Evans ● 1341d

Thank you for the info. So this must explain the huge increase in fly tipping.

Nicholas Beard ● 1342d

http://www.tacklingflytipping.com/penaltiesandlegislation/1498In the absence of any interest by Ealing Council, the Ealing North MP has now got involved.

Ian Fergus ● 1342d

Fly tipping, in itself, is NOT a crminal offence unless the wates tipped is a controlled substamce. The council can build a case and take the fly tipper to court but are very unlikely to do so if the offence is on private land.Please see, inter alia, https://www.mylawyer.co.uk/fly-tipping-a-A76076D35091/

N V Brooks ● 1342d