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Local Elections - "Anti" LTN Campaigners

Who is up for election and stating a firm manifesto of removing the plant pot hell?Geniune question.I care not what their overall politics are, they get my vote if this is one of their top priorities.Another nightmare on Boston Manor Road today.THIS MADNESS MUST END

Colin Goodman ● 1088d92 Comments

The original question was about who’s up for election & removing the plant pots from hell,If you are in some form of deluded denial & in favour of these obstructions, then start a new post & organise a march

Peter Yale ● 1071d

Paul, are you really as dense as you come across?People are aware of many things, but have to live in the real world. Do you not think that people might actually need their cars, vans, etc? That’s why there hasn’t been a mass move by the population to get rid of them. It’s why there is still traffic, because not everything is in the so-called 15 minute city your fantasists believe in.It’s something you seem incapable of comprehending, that not everyone lives in a little bubble called ‘Paul James World’.The government could, of course, make them all illegal but that would kill the economy off once and for all.Even a halfwit like Boris Johnson can see that.

Simon Hayes ● 1071d

The point is, many have lost their livelihoods just through these LTNs, loss of customers, staff unable to rely on buses, because this council and other Labour ones across the capital chose to represent the 1% who cycle at the cost of the 99% who don't.All that pro-cycling hardware from cycle lanes to Roadblocks just to make sure the 1% can have full use of the roads and the 99% can not.We the 99% need to get together right across Greater London and show our Anger at being treated like we are some form of disease.We need to make the Government and London councillors know that the masses do not like being treated like scum.

Leslie Bailey ● 1071d

Absolutely not, there are people who aren't willing to see we need to change our behaviours related to car use in our cities all over the UK!

Paul James ● 1071d

Seems as if opposition the LTN's isn't confined to just Ealing - https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/protesters-rebel-against-cash-cow-ltn-croydon-b936159.html

peter king ● 1071d

Agreed there’s a lot of traffic, however there was a choice of routes.Motorists weren’t penalised or prohibited for using various routes

Peter Yale ● 1074d

Paul. Most people I know say it is harder for them now. Just because you personally think something doesn’t make it a fact. As has been proven with many of your other utterances.The policy is designed to get residents in parts of Ealing to give up their cars. Bell stated that. But non residents can still drive about as before. In many instances they would call that discrimination.But the point is the majority of residents have said they want the LTNs removed.

Simon Hayes ● 1074d

Why are you replying for Peter?

N V Brooks ● 1074d

"Many people AREN'T able to move freely around the area because there are too many car journeys..."What a totally ludidcrous, garbage, rubbish, and stupid assertion, you're losing the plot.Mr Havelock, I wish I was as erudite as you, your postings always make common sense.  👍

Rosco White ● 1074d

>allowing people to move freely Simon. Many people AREN'T able to move freely around the area because there are too many car journeys...It's been like this for YEARS.

Paul James ● 1074d

That just about sums it up Raymond. There are people here who think that expanding Heathrow is more economically important than allowing people to move freely around the area in which they live to carry out their work.Talking about frugality, there’s a new piece today about thousands of tonnes of British plastic recycling that’s turned up as litter in Turkey. I hope none of it was from Greener Ealing.

Simon Hayes ● 1074d

>No 1 drives for funExcept me apparently :D

Paul James ● 1074d

>I wish you continued good health so that you don't ever have to drive out of necessityNigel, people who need to drive for reason such as your own SHOULD be able to drive. I support the hell out of that!The more people that leave the car at home the BETTER it is for people in your situation.I WANT you to drive and I WANT you to have more space to do do, more parking, quicker journeys, more easy all round.Please stop trying to make out I think the opposite.

Paul James ● 1074d

So how do you suggest people make a living? Less able and elderly get around?How exactly will making a living be possible in your Green world?It is not properly possible. This is just gesture posturing.Never mind the politicians. It's all very well pontificating about the future but we are all living here because it is a means to a living.It is a better place by miles from all that has been done over 70 years.  Far less polluted and illnesses that purveyed en masse are now very isolated and almost eradicated. Despite increases in populous and traffic.The direction with engineering R&D has been nudging closer and closer to pollution free machines. Now largely halted by the screaming hysteria.Yet the much vaunted environmental solutions are even worse for poor use of resources and unproven longevity.  The problem is simply shifted to another place. The best we can do is use stuff frugally and responsibly and most people have always done this instinctively.  Marketing and business create a desire to do otherwise. Use more electricity, energy effeminacy comes at a price that is unaffordable to most and the numbers simply don't add up.LTNs are an example. It has increased my fuel and mileage by 75%.If you can tell me how I transport 18kg of work equipment to various locations safely and without risk, I would love to know.It's interesting that so many keen on LTNs are middle class and insulated from the tough realities of living in this city. Delivery drivers who work their nuts off for just £25 a day, but hey it's environmentally sound. Is it?Splitting and dividing a large but interwoven community is disastrous for too many. But OK for those who are cushioned against it. Where riding a bike about is trendy and cool a.( Because if your lucky enough to be fit and able. or b. You have don't have to go to work or c. You do a non productive office type occupation or like several I know, including my boss, Use a courier to take your work stuff to workplace whilst cycling. Something two Mayors of London did.No mention as ever about over densification, inadequate living conditions being foisted upon too many or all the other things that far exceed the footprint of the car.No mention of the problems now faced daily by elderly and voluntary workers or the additional costs incurred and damage to local businesses.The legacy for the future will be lovely in a fluffy cosy world but the reality is it will be hideously competitive and very limited if restricted in such ways.

Raymond Havelock ● 1074d

Why do people who support LTNs have such simplistic views? It’s almost as if they just make something up to fit the agenda that suits them.These schemes aren’t about pollution control. They aren’t even about making roads safer. They are all about imposing an ideology on a section of the population, an ideology that nobody living in these parts of Ealing should have a car.Bell’s ultimate aim has been to get everyone to give up their vehicles and turn Ealing into Copenhagen. He’s so dim he could not see the flaws in his plan and it’s cost him his job.New man mason might be more cunning but he’s cut from the same cloth.

Simon Hayes ● 1074d

I don't drive for fun. Being severely disabled I drive only for necessity, not that this is any concern of yours to be frank. You need to understand individual circumstances may be different to your own utopian ideal.I wish you continued good health so that you don't ever have to drive out of necessity

N V Brooks ● 1074d

Don’t think many ppl have a problem with that, getting rid of the worse pollutants.Trouble is the powers that be are causing congestion, they are anti any car, which is not feasible for a number of reasons for a vast majority of people.No 1 drives for fun

Peter Yale ● 1074d

There two types of politician here. The ones who want to save the planet and give the future generations a chance. This involves measures like the LTNs. The seond type of politician wants to get votes at any cost and while they crow the ecological agenda they are hypocrites in speaking and working against the LTN project. So as we go into next years local elections we will be easily able to identify the hypocrites and the pseuds among out political stock, the anti-LTN ones. Actions speak louder than words, how can you be green and anti-LTN at the same time? There has to be some sacrifice to save the world and massive gas-guzzling chelsea tractors will simply have to go.

Victor Helm ● 1074d

You need to question your self. I speak for mysel yes, however judging by the views here I echo other drivers thoughts.An anti LTN demo also took place.It’s basic common sense & fact you constantly deny & have no clue about, especially as you drive as & when for fun

Peter Yale ● 1074d

Oh, three 'fars' now. No one is disagreeing that the mix has to change and it will as motor vehicle change. Coralline what there is onto restricted roadspace however is NOT the answer.

N V Brooks ● 1074d

We need there to be far, far far fewer cars movements. More cycling and more walking.I'm not taking the piss.

Paul James ● 1074d

Nowhere near as much as you are chap.

N V Brooks ● 1075d

I presume you're taking the piss :D

Paul James ● 1075d

Having followed the tragic unfolding of this case (Ella-Adoo- Kissi-Debrah) for a number of years in Private Eye it is worthwhile mentioning two points. The already high traffic volumes on the A205 are now being exacerbated by forcing diverted traffic onto them from the Lee Green LTN.Rosamund (Ella's mother)  said the scheme is “insane” and an example of “environmental racism” as it takes traffic from the relatively affluent Lee Green area and diverts it onto Hither Green Lane which is primarily occupied by ethnic minority residents.

N V Brooks ● 1075d

In 2013 the then Mayor of London announced the first ULEZ because of the illegal air pollution in London. Politicians of different hues have spent too many years pussy-footing over necessary decisions because they like power and unpopularity tends not to gain them power.  There is also a very heavy fossil fuel lobby.  Ella Kissi-Debrah died SEVEN years ago.  She is just one of many whose lives have been shortened by air pollution.  The Coroner recently ruled on her case and called for the UK Govt to sort out its illegal air pollution.  We need to move to healthier ways of transport - there isn't room for everyone to have personal cars (many of which can be shared).  Children should be able to cycle to school safely again.  If you are eligible for a Blue Badge then you should apply for one. If you are eligible for a Freedom Pass or a Disabled Freedom Pass or a Taxi Card then apply for one.  There has also been a trial of Demand Responsive Buses - such as those used in other parts of the world.Many people cycle as well as drive. Cars don't need to be used all the time.  We have to be able to find better ways of travelling and living to clean up our air and reduce greenhouse gases.https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/demand-responsive-bus-servicehttps://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/services/freedom-pass

Philippa Bond ● 1075d

Welcome back Paul, I can't tell you how much your insightful comments have been missed. No, I really can't.

N V Brooks ● 1075d

It's not just all about you Peter, you need to think a little bigger.

Paul James ● 1075d

1 of your favourite sentences is this isn’t what happens.As I drive every day I can assure you it IS what happens.If a roads blocked, traffic will seek an alternative route.Like today at Scotch Common, temporary lights causing large tailbacks.Cars skirted this, same as with Boston Rd & LTNs ( which btw are impeding the emergency services)

Peter Yale ● 1076d

Depends how the “powers that be “go about it.If you read the posts, the majority of replies are against traffic measures forced upon motorists, regardless of public opinion The motorist  is always targeted by council, TFL, sadiq khan , Paul James who openly wage war on motorists

Peter Yale ● 1084d

>I also feel that as you drive infrequently you have no idea or right, to tell those of us who drive everyday,I'm not telling anybody.I asking that people think before they use a car, is there another way?We need far far fewer car journeys, through traffic or not.

Paul James ● 1084d

Anybody stopped to think why the Campaign for Better Transport opposes building new roads, widening roads, constantly highlights that most town and cities break air pollution limits and much more? Better transport does not have to include cars.The organisation campaigns to improve transport links for all. If the transport links are healthier, greener and more affordable then is that not better for everyone?

Ben Owen ● 1084d

That’s not what is being said, people agree there needs to be less car use.However this is not possible & the journeys are made worse because of ridiculous LTNs.We also realise you do drive albeit as & when, however in complete denial about wanting to get somewhere as quickly & least time consuming as possibleI also feel that as you drive infrequently you have no idea or right, to tell those of us who drive everyday, that LTNs are not a problem when I can assure you they clearly are

Peter Yale ● 1084d

But Paul. People do that most of the time already. It’s through traffic that contributes to much of what passes through this area. Much of it is commercial traffic.Everybody knows that except you it seems.

Simon Hayes ● 1084d

Nobody is asking people not to drive. Just drive as little as possible, find another way other than taking a car if yo can.There are LOTs of options.

Paul James ● 1084d

I think Phillipa Bond is replying to the laughable claim on the Chiswick Forum that the London Cycling Campaign is a somewhat subversive organisation.

David Burke ● 1085d

what a load of codswollopSo you can & do drive when suits, but in some form of denial bordering on mistruths or lies.Absolutely delusional, living in some kind of fantasy world

Peter Yale ● 1085d

If there was a plot, someone has seriously lost it. I blame the Tory cuts.

N V Brooks ● 1085d

  😂      👍

Rosco White ● 1085d

What are you on about?

Simon Hayes ● 1085d

So are you now or have you ever been a member of a motoring organisation such as the AA and RAC or any trades union lobbying for their interests and against air pollution policies and climate change policies?

Philippa Bond ● 1085d

I know that, Nigel.

Simon Hayes ● 1085d

Simon, Paul is happy in his bubble of one and rejects anything that would burst his bubble. Time, I really believe, to really accept the delusion and move on, fewer and fewer are listening.

N V Brooks ● 1085d

Where’s your overwhelming evidence for LTN support.Your opinion isn’t fact. Only a halfwit would believe that. As Bell proves.

Simon Hayes ● 1085d

Here we go, pretty much all the assumption you've made abotu me are wrong so I've skipped a few of those.>I suspect you DO drive & own a car.I drive sometimes, I don't own a motor vehicle in any way shape or form. I use a car club and can pick up a car or a van when I really need, which is vanishingly rare for me.>Like the majority of us you will use it to get from A to B Invalid premise, I don't own a car>Maybe for shopping, Maybe, very occasionally I'll use a car to do bulk shopping.>get to workpublic transport or cycle>carrying goods or freightI'll use a van to do that if I'm going to do it myself (which I don't own)>too cold for a bike Er, warm clothes.>No one drives for funThis is untrue, take a trip to mayfair!>it’s a necessity.I disagree, there are options to avoid car use I think many many more could do those first.>We all want to get from A to B as quickly as possible, save time, money & fuel- no doubt EXACTLY the same as you ( although you will be in some form of denial)You seem to presume a car facilities this, when in fact it's often the opposite.>You could be one of these luvvies who think a cargo bike solves everything, Nope.>although tell that to a tradesman carrying his boiler for example & tools.nobody is saying cars or vans should be banned.>Roads are an essential part of the infrastructure & quite obviously the less available the more congested others will be.Nope.>An obstruction - flowerpots in the middle of the road, technically closes it & puts eyes pressure & traffic on others.Nope.>These are basic facts probably covered by some science or other.Science actually says the opposite.>The general public, however much Mayors, politicians TFL produce twisted figures, bordering on lies. The majority of the general public in Ealing are against them.Your blinkered view & constant denial are not in keeping with the majority I suspect the majority support LTNS. Your assertion is they don't.>as you can see by the posts on this forum.Nope.>The council are guilty to of going against the public wishes I disagree

Paul James ● 1085d

Never mind Paul, you agree with yourself despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary That's all that matters isn't it?Stay well and, one day, when you can find a shred of empiric evidence to support your claims, do post again. Until then, be happy in your 'bubble of one'.

N V Brooks ● 1085d

Perhaps you can elaborate????

Peter Yale ● 1085d

If it helps, I think you're wrong on pretty much everything you've written there, if not all of it. :)

Paul James ● 1085d

Not as much of a myth as ‘traffic evaporation’.Where’s your evidence of the ‘overwhelming majority’ of residents supporting LTNs Paul?  Maybe it’s stored in your unicorn stable?

Simon Hayes ● 1085d

Paul James Khan, you clearly are selective about what you answer.I suspect you DO drive & own a car.Like the majority of us you will use it to get from A to B , obviously.Maybe for shopping, get to work, carrying goods or freight, to cold for a bike ,unhealthy or less able bodied etc, any number of reasons.Like any of us.No one drives for fun, it’s a necessity.We all want to get from A to B as quickly as possible, save time, money & fuel- no doubt EXACTLY the same as you ( although you will be in some form of denial)You may well be retired so can journey at a time that suits you & don’t have a schedule as such.Perhaps a job with flexible hours where you can stagger your start time.You could be one of these luvvies who think a cargo bike solves everything, although tell that to a tradesman carrying his boiler for example & tools.I’m sure they won’t be easy targets for a thiefRoads are an essential part of the infrastructure & quite obviously the less available the more congested others will be.An obstruction - flowerpots in the middle of the road, technically closes it & puts eyes pressure & traffic on others.These are basic facts probably covered by some science or other.The general public, however much Mayors, politicians TFL produce twisted figures, bordering on lies. The majority of the general public in Ealing are against them.Your blinkered view & constant denial are not in keeping with the majority as you can see by the posts on this forum.The council are guilty to of going against the public wishes & should be held accountable

Peter Yale ● 1085d

"To thine ownself be true."          🤣

Rosco White ● 1085d

It’s not a myth, I drive everyday & experience for a fact traffic flows a lot more freely

Peter Yale ● 1085d

..another silly self selecting poll!

Paul James ● 1085d

>Every time the lights fail, how is it traffic flows that much better.It really doesn't this is a ridiculous myth!

Paul James ● 1085d

More space for cars, more cars, it's been shown over and over and over again.

Paul James ● 1085d

> that judging by the number of posts writing against the scheme, ...by the same five people :D

Paul James ● 1085d

>Paul, I can understand that during lockdown you won't have had much contact with your neighbours and people in Ealing generallyActually, I'd say just the opposite happened!

Paul James ● 1085d

> is very aware that the huge balance of local opinion is against LTNs I don't think it is!

Paul James ● 1085d

Where’s your evidence Paul?

Simon Hayes ● 1085d

He doesn’t because there are ‘too many cars’.But he happily drives one or a van when it suits him.Like all good eco warriors he preaches at the rest of us but does as he pleases.

Simon Hayes ● 1085d

& I would like to know if Paul James has a car?????????????

Peter Yale ● 1086d

We can but hope that BellEnd really digs his heels in and foists more of these unwanted LTN schemes on LBE locals.It's only another year to go and I'd have thought that it's the best chance we have of getting shot of him and his crew in May next year?Unfortunately it would mean another year of LTNs, but I think we're all gonna get another year+ + + of them anyway?

Rosco White ● 1086d

Ealing and Northfields Friends are running another poll on their Facebook page. With just over a day gone  the votes are roughly 90% rejecting LTNs with over 1400 Northfields residents voting against.Typically, the 'pro' brigade are complaining that the I don't want  LTNs is the first of the 6 options.Doubtless the vote will be ignored but the strength of feeling against the nonsensical obstacles remains high. There are many local cyclists joining the rejection votes as well 👍.

N V Brooks ● 1086d

Mr James plays games, he's not stupid and is very aware that the huge balance of local opinion is against LTNs but he enjoys being perverse.If only Local London Council Elections were now, we would have a VERY good chance of tossing BellEnd and his Southall Posse OUT on their collective ears.Unfortunately, for the hugely put upon and weary denizens of Ealing/Acton, we have another year to endure during which Local Labour can employ lies and subterfuge to con their Labour Lemmings into once again returning them to power.                          Remember,        TRASH YOUR NEIGHBOURHOOD, VOTE LOCAL LABOUR!

Rosco White ● 1086d

The evidence suggests, on this site at least, that judging by the number of posts writing against the scheme, that the majority of sensible people are against them.They can also see & work out the damage they cause in time, pollution, congestion & money

Peter Yale ● 1086d

Yes there probably was chaos. Nonetheless it’s lessened when there are extra get out routes, as with anything

Peter Yale ● 1086d

It’s roadworks, traffic lights, some fool putting flower pots in the middle of the road, that’s what causes jams ( unnecessarily).Every time the lights fail, how is it traffic flows that much better.Do you own a car??

Peter Yale ● 1086d

It’s common sense. Of course it would be alleviated.The cars could move around as they are not stuck in a single road.It’s obvious.Also, do you own a car???

Peter Yale ● 1086d

Paul, I can understand that during lockdown you won't have had much contact with your neighbours and people in Ealing generally but now that things start to loosen up you will be able to get a better feel for the strength of opinion in the area.If you are having to remain isolated there is always CAMTAG, Commonplace, emails to council and thousands of people demonstrating which provide 'overwhelming evidences' that most residents want these schemes scrapped.

Tricia Arbuthnot ● 1086d

PJ Khan. “To many cars”I believe you say you have a car?

Peter Yale ● 1086d

Paul doesn’t need proof that he’s right. Like any good fundamentalist he’s on a divine mission. That’s why he posits all his opinion as fact.

Simon Hayes ● 1086d

The roadworks there take up the space normally occupied by some parked cars.People need to say what's causing the jams of cars, but they won't.Clue, it's too many cars...

Paul James ● 1086d

“The chaos everywhere “ could be alleviated...Pretty sure it wouldn't be alleviated!

Paul James ● 1086d

I asked for your overwhelming evidences that most residents are against LTNs first :D

Paul James ● 1086d

Isn't it sad that parody, irony and occasionally sarcasm are so sadly lost in this forum. That said Paul will probably pick up on your post as both a Damascene moment and proof that he was right all along

N V Brooks ● 1086d

Ah, Nicolas, you obviously haven’t read any of my other comments on these lovely LTNs. I don’t agree with them at all!My previous comment was parodying the usual refrain from the pro lobby who want to impose their beliefs o the majority of the population without debate or discussion.

Simon Hayes ● 1086d

You need to get a life.. not everthing can be carried on a bike.People like you cause most of the problems in life. LTN'S have shown what fanciful idea's produces in the real world!! They just don't work I'm all for improving the quality of the air we breathe but not at any price that hurts the most poorest in this world.

Nicolas Ozegovic ● 1086d

I’m sure all those ULEZ journeys aren’t really necessary or essential and could easily be done by bike instead!

Simon Hayes ● 1086d

Totally agree this was my prediction on LTN'S and once life gets back to so call normal.. gridlock and chaos.. ulez will be the next big problem when it comes in to force.. drivers avoiding the charge and driving around the zone!!

Nicolas Ozegovic ● 1087d

From a Conservative candidate at the Islington demo, on LTNs and Government involvement and funding. "Conservative government supplied the canvas and paint, but it was the LABOUR COUNCILS who painted the picture with it" (that we now live through).I can't really argue with this.Plus Ealing's leader made it clear it is all about making people suffer until they gives in to his car-free dreams.Very Soviet style in it's application.

Leslie Bailey ● 1087d

Almost as bad as being preached to on Facebook by a vehement pro LCN supporter who criticises drivers and the pollution they create while, at the same time, hypocritically loading his push bikes on to a non-ULEZ compliant 13-year old diesel Audi.

N V Brooks ● 1087d

I’m sort of done with politics..... the lot of ‘em are walking examples of hypocrisy I do however get reminded constantly how people died for tge voting system and “if you don’t vote you can’t moan”My vote will go to anyone standing against the barmy flowerpots and making the removal of them amongst their top priority. I’d say over 5,000 people definitely of the same opinion plus maybe treble that who couldn’t march the other week

Colin Goodman ● 1087d

“The chaos everywhere “ could be alleviated by removing damned fool LTNs so traffic can find alternative routes

Peter Yale ● 1087d

How very interesting the Grant Shapps has had to be very clear to his electorate and local authority there will be No LTNs or suchlike in his constituency.Of course the whole thing is a stunt for the forthcoming Enviro Conference where the Prime Minister wants to showcase and say " Look what we've done"?Endless hypocrisy.

Raymond Havelock ● 1087d

As do I and the police were diverting traffic down Elthorne Park Road and onto Seward Road if they were travelling westbound or straight up to Northfield Avenue if they were intending to go eastbound on the Uxbridge Road.Neither option would be open to them now as the diverted traffic would have to both ignore the signs on the restrictions and then probably appeal the resultant PCNs.Cllr. Anand would probably blame to police again if it happened.

N V Brooks ● 1087d

Save for the fact that the LibDems were supportive of them until they saw how many votes they could garner by opposing them.

N V Brooks ● 1087d

The Conservatives will stand on a policy of removing them like Shaun Bailey is doing. This conveniently ignores that it is his party that instigated them in the first place.The Lib Dems are the only party who have campaigned against them without any hypocrisy however, in most seats in Ealing you would probably be better voting Conservative because of the vagaries of the first past the post system.

Tricia Arbuthnot ● 1087d

When the ULEZ extension comes into operation in October there will be more commercial vehicles using the main roads west of the north circular as the drivers look to avoid paying the extra charge. They’ve already altered the road layout on Kew bridge to accommodate the increase.There will be more traffic on Boston Road, especially if the numpties decide to close Swyncombe Avenue ;a prime example of how traffic doesn’t ‘evaporate’ but instead concentrates).So congestion will be worse on Boston Road, exacerbated by inevitable accidents or roadworks.And Paul, you have a short memory about that road as this twitter entry from you illustrates:‘Where were you when I was pointing out the horrible dirty air caused by long lines of traffic outside St Marks School over the past eight years or so?Why does it appear you are only interested now?Ghoulish.24 Nov 2020’You could at least be consistent in your arguments. And where is your ‘overwhelming wvidence’ on residents supporting LTNs? You said it, so don’t ignore it!!

Simon Hayes ● 1087d

On Mondays by any chance?The one day of the week when there is chaos in Northfields/BM/South Ealing as so many roads were and are blocked by refuse and recycling trucks from 7am till around 1pm.It now takes an Hour - sometimes more, on the bus from Ravenscourt Park to Brentford30 mins of which is between King St and Chiswick Lane/ Turnham Green.The E8 takes up to 45min to get from Brentford to Ealing Broadway, most of which is stuck in Boston Manor Road and the Uxbridge Road.  It takes almost as long in the return trip.  And this now happens in the mid evening.  The only time I recall that is in snowstorms or road diversions.South Ealing Road remains dogged with gas leaks and more road works primarily because it cannot cope with the increase in HGVs seeking to avoid Boston Manor Road and Northfields Ave.You, like me and anyone else Paul, would only notice the exceptional. So I too can recall the really bad blockages. But they are usually because of unusual factors. Accidents or incidents. Refuse collections, road works.You stop short of the circumstances of such "chaos"The difference is these 'exceptional' delays have become the norm.As a resident stuck in an LTN or on the edge of one it leaves no alternative but to add to that congestion. The myriad of alternatives routes are blocked.What was diluted traffic is now concentrated. Concentration leads to far more pollution from idling and stop start movements which add to brake and clutch dust levels.That's a lot of idling traffic in several locations and hugely increased pollution.Oh! in case you have not noticed that either, we have wind, so that concentrated pollution gets spread, and when it's not windy these residential main roads get constant pollution. Places where people shop, eat, do business and generally have to go to at some point.As a local cyclist, LTNs make no difference to getting around. It was always easy and safe - as long as you can ride a bike or scooter safely and with due care.  Sadly thats a far bigger problem.It was always OK and easy.But I too, have to use the main roads at some point in both modes and this has become far worse.

Raymond Havelock ● 1087d

Roadworks opposite the Viaduct

David Burke ● 1087d

Paul, thought you’d emigrated.Still waiting for you to provide your ‘overwhelming evidence’ that the majority of residents support LTNs.

Simon Hayes ● 1087d

I remember Boston road getting shut pre LTN after an incident at trumpers way.I Also vividly remember the chaos everywhere as i cycled around it, and i mean everywhere.

Paul James ● 1087d

We're not electing local councillors this week, only Mayor and London Assembly.

Susan Kelly ● 1088d