Much as I am looking forward to lockdown ending I'm slightly dreading the number of favourite venues that might no longer be with us. Who knows which pubs and restaurants aren't going to be reopening in the Ealing area?
Tricia Arbuthnot ● 242d14 Comments
Thought it might be helpful to have a list of pubs/restaurants in Ealing which will be opening outdoors from 12th April if the date for outdoor hospitality isn't changed. So far I know of:The GroveThe Red LionThe New InnThe GrangeNo 17 Dickens YardWill have to see if more are added when the date is confirmed in a few weeks.
Harry Simmons ● 227d
Really good information here. Uber eats is terribly expensive even AFTER the usual 25% off deals which seem a perpetual feature. Order direct from the local businesses and add a decent tip for the delivery, you'll still be spending far less than by Uber or the other delivery services.
Martin Callaghan ● 234d
Just Eat publish 'their' version of the menu for my local Chinese takeaway. The prices are a full 30% above those of the'real' prices. In the case of the soups the uplift is nearer 40%.
N V Brooks ● 235d
I'll definitely start doing that, thanks for the tip. Will be much better supporting them directly and not having them lose so much in commission to Deliveroo etc!
Harry Simmons ● 236d
Call your favourite restaurant and ask if they will deliver directly to you. My favourite Indian and favourite Chinese will both offer direct delivery and also discount for so doing.This is because Deliveroo take a ridiculous 12-18% of the menu price.Also beware the deliveroo and just eaten versions on restaurant menus which have already inflated prices.
N V Brooks ● 236d
That'll be two of the three Young's pubs in Ealing having been done up recently, New Inn after they bought it just before the first lockdown now The Grange. So promising those should be safe along with the Fuller's pubs. I read somewhere The Drapers Arms was going to be refurbished last year but that was cancelled due to the pandemic so not sure if that doesn't bode well for its future or if they'll just do it in future and keep it as it is for now.
Harry Simmons ● 236d
I don't know enough about the industry to be certain but I wonder if it was (through luck) good timing for Fuller's selling the brewery side when they did now having the cash they need to get through this. I saw they're also refurbishing The Rose and Crown during the current lockdown. I heard the Young's CEO yesterday saying every one of their pubs was making a loss when they were opened after the first lockdown which is worrying. Mitchell and Butlers who I think have a couple of pubs in Ealing (Drapers Arms and North Star) recently raised funds from shareholders to get them through so not sure what that might mean for their future. I suppose it's lucky quite a few pubs in Ealing are Fuller's so looking more secure.Agree about Deliveroo and Uber Eats, would be good to find out which local restaurants you can order delivery directly from to cut them out so the restaurant gets all the benefit without having to pay extortionate commission. Unfortunately I'm usually ordering through Deliveroo as I'm not sure which restaurants deliver directly.
Harry Simmons ● 236d
Thanks for the responses. I've also been told that all the Fuller's owned pubs locally will reopen because the group has lots of cash after selling their brewery to the Japanese. For the rest it looks like it is touch and go. I'm also trying to support local restaurants through ordering by deliver - not through deliveroo or Uber Eats if possible because the terms offered to restaurants are terrible apparently.
Tricia Arbuthnot ● 237d
The owners of the Ealing Park Tavern bought out the lessees last year, even though the pub was doing well. This was pre-pandemic.Lo and behold a planning application went in for housing on the site, albeit with a reduced sized pub still operating. I’d not be surprised to see the pub aspect of that application to disappear eventually.
Simon Hayes ● 239d
Funny But I just heard on the grapevine that the company wanting the Gunnersbury Park Bowls club site is a Property Development company. Bit odd for a CIC to be involved, one would think. After all are they not custodians not landlords?Is this true for sure?
Raymond Havelock ● 239d
I'm not informed on the subject but I've heard it said that many Pub Groups are, in reality, Property Companies.I have no idea what Post Covid implications that may bring, perhaps a LOT of selling off the Pub locations?For MORE flats?Well, BellEnd & Co will be besides themselves with joy.
Rosco White ● 240d
Very worrying to think of how many will close. I'm trying to order takeaway from independent restaurants each week to support them a bit and when the pubs are back open will make sure I go to local pubs regularly. In terms of pubs a lot of pubs in Ealing are owned by pub groups Fuller's etc not sure if that'll have an impact in helping them stay open. I hope independent pubs such as The Fox in Hanwell survive as they're such key parts of the community.
Harry Simmons ● 240d
Sad but fair question. I suspect we will not know the extent of closures until government funding schemes are fully withdrawn and the ban on landlords being able to evict tenants is removed. At that point small businesses will likely have cash flow issues plus more debt to pay back. Unfortunately I think we will see quite a few casualties then.
James Putland ● 241d