KHAN OUT NOWIt appears the London Mayoral Election will be going ahead.Khan is unfit to stand and should be removed now. On New Year’s Eve, he spent £1.5million of our money on a light show. It included an image of a clenched fist associated with the violent BLM Movement. That association apart, a clenched fist is a symbol of violence, of a threat of violence. I take threats seriously. Don’t we all? Khan needs to answer this question: Who are you threatening, Mr Mayor? Clearly, it is not safe for a man who has incited violence in this way to continue in office. OUT NOW.
Andrew Farmer ● 246d42 Comments
That would be the same Mr Khan who's response to the upcoming effect on poorer people of the ULEZ zone being enlarged was to be told to just buy another car, a second hand one will do apparently!
peter king ● 64d
London has various vote banks , Khan represents Labour and many people will vote for him based on a Labour ticket , the vast majority of Londoners vote based upon what they mistakenly believe is in their own best interests . what we really need are genuine independents but the voting system makes that impossible
Paul Taylor ● 64d
Unless the seemingly growing numbers in opposition to another term vote for any of the other candidates, he will get back in. We've had five years in May of doing nothing while claiming in true Blair fashion to knowing the answers to everything. London deserves better than this little egotist.
peter king ● 213d
I'm not a fan either, but he's going nowhere. None of the other candidates stands a chance of unseating him.
Susan Kelly ● 215d
Will this do - https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/transport-for-london-earning-more-100000-a4495026.htmlI know it's from the 'Sub' Standard but it looks to be true
peter king ● 215d
I don't think that is something that should be skipped over. Excess pay for senior staff working in local government is a national scandal. When you take into account other benefits particularly pensions their payment way exceeds equivalent roles in the private sector.
How much responsibility Sadiq Khan should bear for this is not clear. All local authorities across the country have examples of outrageously high salaries and the pay scales are largely determined by national agreements.
A proportion of the highly paid staff are likely to be people with transport expertise who will need to be paid an industry rate as opposed to time-serving bureaucrats who have just ended up with a huge salary for being around for a long time.
If you can provide evidence that the number of staff on £100,000 is too high compared with other local government bodies, I'd be quite happy to put excess pay in the negative column for Sadiq Khan.
Gordon Southwell ● 232d
Try not to skip over the number of employees earning over £100k pa too, also increased. Same poor old service from tfl as I know having had to go to the top to get a small local issue solved and it still isn't!
peter king ● 232d
'Talk about fooling some of the people all of the time, his record on anything is a joke.'
See my post above. Although his record is undoubtedly mixed you need to give him some credit for things like the fares freeze, the bus hopper ticket and his early promotion of facemasks.
The TfL pay gap is a new one on me. It may be an intractable problem because of the way that the tube drivers unions effectively control recruitment and that results in mainly men getting those highly paid jobs.
Gordon Southwell ● 233d
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Philippa Bond ● 233d
Talk about fooling some of the people all of the time, his record on anything is a joke. The number of people in his PR team is ever growing, he has done nothing to reduce the tfl pay gap between men and women. All he does is seek pity for the governments attack on the person in the street who he is defending. Shame on the government (I sound like him here) for making him a martyr.
peter king ● 233d
The so-called bail out from general taxation was to keep our transport network running. Unlike every other authority in the country London has had to accept stringent conditions to get the money. How would the person you would replace Sadiq Khan with fund transport if he or she was going to refuse funding from the government?
As for the 'War on Motorists', Sadiq Khan has the current policies dictated to him by the Department for Transport. He implement policies which could have been deemed to be anti-car prior to the pandemic but never supported schemes that were this radical. They are driven from Number 10 with the Prime Minister's transport advisor Andrew Gilligan, who hates Sadiq Khan, spelling out what local authorities have to do. Some like Ealing have been over willing accomplices but changing Mayor would not bring an end to these policies. Only a change of Prime Minister would do that.
Gordon Southwell ● 234d
I'm assuming that all reading this received the mayor's latest publicity pamphlet through their letterbox yesterday? Despite going through our council tax money and one bail out from general taxation, he's eating into the second one now as his War on the Motorist goes on. Forget knife/gun crime and housebuilding let alone his lack of knowledge on Crossrail, he wants another four years to finish us off. Get him out, hopeless/hapless little twirp.
peter king ● 234d
I didn't say Johnson was a poor public speaker - if that was the only quality needed to run the country we wouldn't have a problem. He was President of the Oxford Union. Someone that confident can sound convincing even if he is talking nonsense. Jeremy Vine tells a very interesting anecdote about the times he was a fellow guest with Johnson at public speaking engagements which is very revealing about his methods.https://reaction.life/jeremy-vine-my-boris-story/
Mark Evans ● 239d
Have to disagree about Boris when he was Mayor.Regardless of his track record, as a speaker/debater I have seen him in action in open meetings as Mayor three times and the man confidently speaks from memory, no notes, and was able to quote numerous facts & figures to back up his points.
Rosco White ● 239d
I went to City Hall once to see a London Assembly committee meeting chaired by Sadiq Khan. He seemed quite nervous and isn't a great public speaker but was clearly well briefed on every agenda item and any intervention he made was constructive. If you contrast this with the public school bombast of the current Prime Minister who is thoroughly convinced of his own genius and contemptuous of the views of anybody he regards as less intelligent than him i.e. everyone, you can see more clearly why this country is in such a mess.Sadiq Khan may even win the Mayoral vote on the first round because people are increasingly realising his virtues outweigh his limitations. The chances of Boris Johnson winning another election unless he was up against Jeremy Corbyn again are vanishingly slim.
Mark Evans ● 240d
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/oct/03/dramatic-plunge-in-london-air-pollution-since-2016-report-findsThis was recorded before the pandemic lockdown. The extension to ULEZ was announced in June 2018.
Philippa Bond ● 242d
Excellent analysis. It's the current Government forcing Khan to implement unpopular measures to discredit him. He is not perfect - but the best Mayor we have had for many, many years.
Urs Esser ● 243d
I'm no fan of the ULEZ extension which I think is bascially a regressive tax and will do little for air quality but we have had several years warning that it is coming.
Other than that I think Sadiq Khan has been a competent and diligent Mayor who hasn't done a bad job. He certainly is a big improvement on his two predecessors who were, in their own ways, narcissistic populists uninterested in small but significant victories for Londoners but obsessed with grand schemes to form their legacy.
Ken nearly did give us the West London Tram and Boris spaffed huge amounts of money on the garden bridge and an even bigger amount on the ill fated routemaster. He also delegated things he wasn't interested in to other people and the legacy of that is the LTNs we have in Ealing which are the pet project of his transport 'expert' Andrew Gilligan. Gilligan hates Sadiq Khan because he scrapped many of his crackpot ideas when he came to power.
There are lots of things on the credit side for Khan including the fare freeze, the bus hopper fare, standing up to Trump and strongly advocating for facemasks when the government was dithering. It is sad to see the Government resorting to Trump style alternative facts when it comes to Khan's record on TfL finances. Up until the pandemic began it was in a much better position financially than it was when he took over despite the reduction of the central government grant and the fare freeze.
Against him are his two biggest failures — firstly to put a finish to the endemic strikes on London Underground and secondly the Crossrail debacle. We can't be too harsh on him about the strike issue as others have tried and failed to sort it. What is less clear is if he could have resolve Crossrail if he had had his eye on the ball. Perhaps a politician of the very highest calibre could have done so but certainly not Boris Johnson or any of the candidates up against him.
My perception that he has done a reasonable job seems to be shared by the majority of Londoners and the Conservative party who haven't bothered to put up a candidate who has a chance of winning. I think people realise that in an unspectacular way he has worked towards the benefit of the city and will continue to do so now we are faced with a hostile government which sees its 'levelling up' agenda more as never giving London a fair deal as opposed to actually doing anything for the north and the Midlands. I think even people who don't share his politics accept that he will always represent London's interests.
Gordon Southwell ● 243d
Don't forget that when we have all hopefully got past the Covid pandemic, the little man will have bought in his latest cracker, the ULEZ for London. He doesn't give anyone the time to save up for a new car if one is needed and it will be those worse off who will suffer for his continuing War on the Motorist. Bin him off please London as he has failed on so many fronts
peter king ● 243d
Agree, Khan out ASAP & TFL disbanded.Fireworks are ok(ish), £1.5m though in these troubling times - & he’s raising council tax.I also object strongly to politicising the event with his own agenda & beliefs.Fireworks fine, nothing else.The capital is gridlocked & he is making it worse. If the gov are calling shots, his anti car rhetoric & fierce promotion of cycle lanes & ridiculous LTNs tell a different story.All he does is tax a motorist left right & centre, congestion, pollution, ulez, a proposal for central London charge.A good point is raised though , in that they are all as bad as one another
Peter Yale ● 244d
Undoubtedly, Khan OUT for sure, but the alternatives are all just so lacklustre?No-one is anywhere near a Standout Candidate.The very, VERY sad state of the calibre of politics today, local and national.
Rosco White ● 244d
The mayor's main challenger believes that the solution to homelessness is for them to save up for a deposit for a new home. At least Sadiq has is head in reality.https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-london-mayor-candidate-suggests-23314390?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
Paul Scullion ● 245d
We need to distinguish between the 60+ card and the Freedom Pass. The latter is a national scheme and not under threat at the moment. The former is local and, frankly, hard to justify, given that people aged between 60 and 66 are mostly still working and do not need free travel to 'stay mobile'.Shaun Bailer has said in the past that he will get rid of the 60+ card though I don't know if that is still his policy.
Susan Kelly ● 245d
What about the BILLIONS that this Govt has wasted by giving contracts to all their chums for PPE etc when there were established companies here who were offering to make it. We personally were supporting individuals and groups who were making visors for medical staff and carers who had no PPE.https://goodlawproject.org/case/procurement-case/The Govt decided as part of the TfL bailout that the free travel would be stopped. Remember that very few people have been travelling by public transport so there has not been the usual income. Sadiq Khan knew that many of the people who are working as key workers do not have cars and would need to travel by public transport.We have fireworks every New Year's Eve. I thought that the drone display was fascinating.
Philippa Bond ● 245d
The context of the light show was the middle of a pandemic. The clenched fist is an international symbol of defiance and when I saw it I interpreted it as a message of national solidarity. If it was partly intended to be an endorsement of the BLM movement I see no problem with that. The main issue I have with that organisation in this country is the way that it was hi-jacked by middle class virtue signallers. The vast majority of its protests were peaceful and when violence did occur it was undertaken by people not associated with the movement who came looking for trouble after the main protest had ended. Any violence was always condemned by the organisers. This seems like a pointless and trivial thing to judge the effectivness of a Mayor on. The opinion polls before the pandemic gave him a huge lead and it doesn't seem that the attempts by central government to undermine his position by starving the capital of funds is eroding his majority.
Gordon Southwell ● 245d
They are a waste of money in my opinion, but especially in a time such as this. What the proposed garden bridge has to do with the subject of this thread I do not know. Why not start a thread of your own about it?This thread is not principally about the money. It is about the purpose it was in part put.
Andrew Farmer ● 245d
The gesture in the photograph of Churchill might be an expression of determination or, as you put it, defiance. It is impossible to say without knowing the context of the picture so I cannot answer the question you asked me. We are, in any case, not talking about Churchill. We are taking about Khan and the gesture in the known context of the violence of the BLM Movement.
Andrew Farmer ● 245d
If I recall we have fireworks every New Year, the cost this year pales in to significance when compared with the 40 odd million of OUR money that Johnson spent on the proposed garden bridge,Johnson must be one of the most incompetent individuals ever to hold public office.
David Burke ● 245d
Just to endorse Phillipa's point, policies such as LTNs are not those of Sadiq Khan. They have been drawn up by Andrew Gilligan who is an advisor to the Prime Minister. The Mayor is being forced to implement them because that is the only thing the Department for Transport will give funding to.
Gilligan hates Sadiq Khan because the latter scrapped a number of screwball schemes he had persuaded Boris Johnson to endorse when he was Mayor. The danger of not having Khan in place is that a Conservative Mayor may be less willing to kick back against central government policies and we'll have more harebrained traffic projects than ever.
Gordon Southwell ● 245d
The clenched fist has been a symbol of defiance long before BLM. Or perhaps you think this chap should be locked up
Christine Mulligan ● 245d
Tenuous? In what way? Do you deny that a clenched fist is a symbol of a threat of violence? Have you forgotten the violent BLM demonstration that Khan allowed to go ahead, which resulted in serious injury to the police? Khan’s gesture is an encouragement of that kind of behaviour, throwing bottles at the police. As to the link to a Guardian article you supplied, it concerns “the intended victim of a beating planned by the politician’s friend”. It reports remarks by a Mr Stuart Collier, the “victim”, about a man named Guppy and the article suggests that the politician, Boris Johnson, “could have possibly been in league with Darius Guppy”. Why, Mr Evans, do you not encourage Mr Collier to report the matter to the police? Or do you feel they might think the evidence too “tenuous”?
Andrew Farmer ● 245d
The big issue for us over 60s Conservatives is what is happening to the free travel for the Over 60s in London?60+ was given to us by Boris the Mayor, but now Boris' Government says it will withdraw the funding for it. Khan want's to keep it funded with a raid on the Council Tax, so at the moment most of us 60+ Conservatives are having to vote for Khan in order to stay mobile, after lockdown is over.Where does Shaun Bailey stand on the 60+ free travel? Does he agree with removing it? Why do we have to keep returning to the Nasty Party of politics every time?
Leslie Bailey ● 245d
He definitely needs to go, the capital is virtually gridlocked due to his insane policies
Jim McCauley ● 246d
I fully agree that politicians who incite violence should be removed from office but your argument that Sadiq Khan has done this is ridiculously tenuous. If only there was an example over the last week of a politician who had actually explicitly caused a riot.There are also previous London Mayors that have incited violence in a more unambiguous way. Given the high standards you clearly expect from people in public office presumably you are calling for the person that is the subject of the article linked to below to be removed from power?https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/14/black-eyes-boris-johnson-plot-attack-reporter-darius-guppy
Mark Evans ● 246d