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Two metres/Six feet of distance may not be enough to prevent coronavirus transmission

Let us hope Boris does not reduce the social distancing requirements to one metre or three feet in response to requests by pub, restaurant, bar and other hostility trade businesses when they re-open'Six feet of distance may not be enough to prevent coronavirus transmission, experts say' - CNNhttps://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-05-28-20-intl/index.html14 hr 47 min agoSix feet of distance may not be enough to prevent coronavirus transmission, experts sayFrom CNN’s Arman AzadPublic health officials have called on people to stay six feet apart to slow the spread of coronavirus through so-called respiratory droplets. But three experts are warning that six feet may not be enough – and they say the world needs to take airborne transmission of the virus seriously.In a commentary published in the journal Science, the experts called for “regular, widespread testing” to find asymptomatic cases, and they pointed to places where mask wearing is universal and the virus has been controlled, like Hong Kong and Taiwan. World Health Organization guidance might not be enough in all situations, they said.“Evidence suggests that (the novel coronavirus) is silently spreading in aerosols exhaled by highly contagious infected individuals with no symptoms,” wrote Chia Wang of National Sun Yat-sen University in Taiwan and Kimberly Prather and Dr. Robert Schooley of the University of California, San Diego.    “Increasing evidence for (the coronavirus) suggests the six foot WHO recommendation is likely not enough under many indoor conditions where aerosols can remain airborne for hours, accumulate over time, and follow air flows over distances further than six feet,” they wrote.The three experts, who are specialists in chemistry and infectious diseases, said aerosols from breathing and speaking “can accumulate, remain infectious in indoor air for hours, and be easily inhaled deep into the lungs.” That makes wearing masks all the more essential, they said, even when people are keeping their distance. More on this: The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has focused on so-called respiratory droplets produced when a person coughs or sneezes. The droplets don’t linger in the air for long, but the CDC says they “can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.” Spread is more likely when people are in close contact with one another, or “within about 6 feet,” the CDC says. That’s because respiratory droplets are relatively large and fall to the ground – unlike aerosols, which are smaller and more likely to stay in the air longer.Despite the focus on droplets from US health officials and others, the experts said “a large proportion of the spread of coronavirus disease 2019 (Covid-19) appears to be occurring through airborne transmission of aerosols produced by asymptomatic individuals during breathing and speaking.” While more research is needed, they called for robust testing schemes and said people need to mask up. “For society to resume, measures designed to reduce aerosol transmission must be implemented, including universal masking and regular, widespread testing to identify and isolate infected asymptomatic individuals,” they said.

Mark Julian Raymond ● 1796d15 Comments

The big danger is that thanks to the Cummings story Johnson will want to accelerate going back to normality. The Hospitality sector is on it's knees and so to do this may appear to be based on scientific advise (from whom??) But it is still too early to know whether we are coming out of things. Table service to socially distanced tables would appear to be the answer in the short term. But then with our approach to Quarantine on incoming flights happening months too late and previous advice on masks being ineffective the governments response apart from the nightingale hospitals are baffling. Our ministers and civil servants did not have the required urgency from the start. It was the general public who have led all the way through by deciding in large numbers to effectively lock down before the government said so. Individual companies decided to shut before anything was enforced. However Cummings has insulted all of that and an apology and recognition of how it looked might have helped. He is a guy of some talent who when he asked for wierdos was making a good point. Our ministers and civil servants act far too slowly but then when they get Deloittes and Serco involved they are far too slow to react. In Britain we have a slow bureaucracy that lacks flair to cut through problems. In the war Churchill got round this by forcing decision making. The claim about brexit was to take back control but our own officials operate in such a rule based manner. We have people that operate within rules and dont think outside of the Box. however our rule based tick box society means that we don't challenge. Part of our current shambles is this culture. A minister asks the NHS to do something but only finds out a month later that it hasn't happened. They employ consultancies who just produce nice diagrams. The consultancies share a similar mentality. So can we really be surprised by our slow official response??? As an IT person who worked with wierdos on successful projects i feel that as a country we are now entering a perfect storm of pandemic/brexit and that our government culture is not equipped to adapt. The outsourcing from the civil service and the constant privatisation of elements of the NHS have made the processes of government more complex. Maybe Cummings had the ability to change things but his uncooperative manner will doom him to failure.

Peter Chadburn ● 1795d