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How can one shop in confidence?

A visit to Lidl in Hanwell shopping for a person win isolation yesterday was a horror show.Well managed outside descended in to chaos inside.Why so few wearing masks? Why so many touching all the produce?  I've always found this a problem with some customers in this store in normal times.Distancing simply goes out to the window.But worse was to come. A small boy sneezed endlessly all along the open fruit area and along the bakery and in other parts of the store. His older brother coughed a lot and either put a hand to their mouths. No tissues. They both handled the produce.Meanwhile the smartly dressed mother did nothing. Apart from preen her blonde hair and chat on her phone.Another customer complained seconds before I was about to but the staff member pretended to take action but I observed that she actually walked off in the direction and carried on, did a loop and returned to what she was doing.How is an app going to deal with this?Words fail me that a mother, old enough to know better should be so careless.The boys probable have hay fever but irrespective of Covid19, they should not be in any circumstances sneezing and coughing over fresh food or without a handkerchief.With this sort of poor basic standards what hope is there for anyone to be able to shop in confidence?People must be pulled up and embarrassed into thinking about their actions or lack of duty.

Raymond Havelock ● 1796d9 Comments

Yes as we ease off there will be spikes but of course the track and trace is not working yet and this is the danger. In Portugal which eased recently there have been a few spikes in Lisbon in the poorer areas and also in the cafe areas. So suddenly a spike. given all the things being eased plus the schools going back here i fear for a sudden increase in a couple of weeks. If millions of us were on the phone app and that we had the right infrastructure i would feel more positive. But we still have large numbers becoming infected each day. The death's may be coming down at last but they are a delayed effect. I will be more cautious this coming week

Peter Chadburn ● 1792d

Whole thing is unravelling like a badly knitted scarf.It's not as though the Govt has not provided enough resources, it's the sheer incompetence of those administering it .People are being let down and at the same time letting themselves down.But quite why elected Politicians locally are not demanding answers on the lack of proper testing in one of the worst affected Boroughs when a lesser risk area has had three - two of which are long term just makes you wonder.Yet they can find resources to action a raft of road measures and in days it's all in place but cannot find a site or means to facilitate testing centres or mobile units to get to care homes.

Raymond Havelock ● 1793d

That's my point, the rules/guidelines are so blatantly obvious & common sense that you shouldn't have to enforce them if people had half a brain and shared concern for the wellbeing of others.It is part and parcel of the "Me", "I don't care", and "Stuff you" culture that we have engendered IMHO.Seeing the photographs of the cretinous masses descending on Durdle Door, the UK has lost the plot.Second wave, here we come.

Rosco White ● 1793d

The rules are not being enforced. Also no masks. A 100000 police to enforce the rules would make a difference I am sure. Also as someone pointed out fines on the metro in Portugal. I have not seen the streets being sprayed here either.

Nicholas Beard ● 1793d

If adherence to rules/guidelines (let alone applying sheer common sense) are an indication of intelligence, the majority of frequenters of the shops in the northern end of Horn Lane are at about moron level.I sincerely hope that these irresponsible fools don't facilitate a second wave, but they're having a good go at ensuring it.

Rosco White ● 1794d

The Govt is just trying to be popular.

Philippa Bond ● 1794d

We see that the government are excusing poor judgement and the press are saying that everything is ok and that soon the pubs will be open. The current R number indicates that we still need controls. most countries require masks. we are doomed with these idiots in charge.

Peter Chadburn ● 1794d

Sadly just looking at the way people have been behaving in the last 24 hours underlines the fact that it will go shooting up.That's the fault of continual confusion and politicking but also the stupidity of us the public.I cannot accept that the behaviour of people in Lidl can be excusable after all this time.Carelessness cost Lives  - Maybe Boris should look at where that one came from,, and why.

Raymond Havelock ● 1794d

Very true. In most countries you were not allowed inside shops without masks. From the start we have been left with mixed message and we had experts saying that masks are ineffective on the government broadcasts. Because we were short of ppe. We see the tubes the same. In Portugal on the Porto Metro they were fining people 300 euros for not wearing any mask. I fear for the second wave

Peter Chadburn ● 1796d