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Have your say on Ealing Broadway Station"improvements"?

I am told that no one understands my post "Age shall not weary them etc". What I hope I can make clear is that for many of us the proposals for the public realm at Ealing Broadway station will make life more difficult for many of us. On that basis the proposals cannot be considered improvements. See press release in news section.The plans make it easy for the most able bodied ie cyclists to park within metres of the station entrance and yet provides no planned drop-off or pick-up point even for the most disabled. This contrary to British Standard guidance for station forecourts. Many of us fall between those two categories or may become less able bodied as we fall pregnant, need to use a push-chair, carry cases or a use a crutch, stick or wheelchair.. Ealing Broadway Station won't be for us. This after millions have been spent bringing all passengers up to pavement level without steps. Have your say. Phone your councillors phone numbers in Around Ealing. Or if you are really clever try to find your way through the prize-winning consultation document on the council Website with a drawing showing no detail. I am trying to be fair but you couldn't make this up could you?

Arthur Breens ● 2443d19 Comments

Bump.  See if you can access the documents.http://socsi.in/9bXS1

Philippa Bond ● 2423d

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-manchester-30908775/kiss-and-ride-sign-erected-at-preston-train-stationSee Libby Kemp's post on Age does Weary us 19/07/19 23:20:00.

Philippa Bond ● 2432d

Yes, I was surprised by the changed date.  Another thing to bear in mind is that the Council website has a knack of being offline for maintenance just when you've managed to allocate some time to tackle reading something more complicated on it.

Philippa Bond ● 2434d

The important thing now is for everyone to respond to the consultation - https://www.ealing.gov.uk/ebstation. Some slightly better news is that after many complaints about how LBE left it till the summer holidays, the deadline's been extended to August 27.

Will French ● 2434d

https://www.ealing.gov.uk/info/201042/current_consultations/2576/ealing_broadway_station_public_realm_improvements_consultationOpen until 27 August 2019

Philippa Bond ● 2434d

https://www.cyclinguk.org/article/campaigns-guide/cycling-levels-in-european-countries

N V Brooks ● 2439d

Which EU survey?I would go with TFL data when it relates to transport movements. They put the monitors on the roads for traffic counts and own the "Oyster" data.

Libby Kemp ● 2439d

Which directly contradicts the EU survey.Which does one believe?The figures in the TfL report are all over the place.One of the highest sources of emissions in Richmond is 'ground-based aviation' - from where. It also has one of the highest per capita CO2 despite being one of the highest users of cycling according to the other tables.It does show Ealing as having the second highest percentage of principal roads in poor condition, which can only leads to congestion and higher emissions from fuelled vehicles.

N V Brooks ● 2439d

See TFL data: http://content.tfl.gov.uk/borough-local-implementation-plan-performance-indicators.pdfTable 1

Libby Kemp ● 2439d

Where does it say that only 2% cycle?he level regularly cycling in the UK was five times that five years ago (2013 EU survey) and is increasing2% of cyclists have mobility issues.Address this, and the disproportionate cost of making cycling inclusive, rather than than your usual 'knee-jerk'.

N V Brooks ● 2439d

The whole idea is that having only 2% of the population cycling is WAY too low and it needs to be much much higher.

Paul James ● 2439d

Very clear,well put. It is astounding you really hit the nail on the head. Read your figures twice. Thanks for this excellent post.

Nichols Beard ● 2440d

30% of Ealing have mental health issues, have I understood that correctly? Are you sure Ms Kemp?If so, would explain a LOT!    :-)

Rosco White ● 2440d

Ealing Council puts the 2% of regular cyclists with mobility problems before non cyclists with mental and physical disabilities, the elderly, those with heavy luggage, persons with prams and young children. Would these disabled cyclists, cycle to the station with their luggage and park their cycles when going on holiday?They do not know how many cyclists have mobility issues and are therefore unable to walk a short distance from cycle racks.The population of Ealing is estimated as 342,700, what LBE does know is that 12% residents are over 70, 13% under 5 and at any one time there are c.5,000 pregnant women. It is known that 18% of the population have physical mobility issues and some 30% mental health issues.Why should an unknown percentage of 2% of the population take precedent over a minimum of 30% of known persons with mobility concerns?We are living in dystopian timesPlease respond to this consultation.

Libby Kemp ● 2440d

This is an Ealing Council ONLINE consultation which immediately means that those not online are unable to comment and if this had not been brought to our attention here many of us would know nothing about it.  Our discussions on changes to and rebuilding Ealing Broadway station were quite a while ago.  Is there an organisation who is representing those who find it more difficult to travel who are looking forward to an up-to-date station accessible to all?Libby has written quite a lot on here about travelling by train in the area.I still think that we should we discussing this with the GLA.  It is bigger than just an Ealing problem.

Philippa Bond ● 2442d

Your original post WAS CLEAR AND WELL WRITTEN. I think people do not want to understand. All I can say is I hope they never get old or need a stick or even worse get pregnant.

Nichols Beard ● 2442d

Just like all those ‘genuinely affordable homes’ supposedly being built in the borough. Affordable to those who have plenty of money, out of reach for those who need them.The irony of the Ealing Broadway proposals is that the Northfields councillors are campaigning for step free access to the underground station here, despite the technical difficulties that will make such access problematic and expensive. At EB they have the opportunity to future proof the station to ensure easy access for all but seem reluctant to do so.It’s a perennial problem with TfL and our transport planners in general. The Docklands Light Railway was built on the premise that demand for it wouldn’t be that great. They knew the Canary Wharf development would result in huge increases in commuter numbers but ignored that, failing to allow longer platforms to accommodate longer trains in future.Lo and behold, by the early 2000s the trains were struggling to cope with demand. Millions were then spent on extending platforms to accommodate longer trains. The same thing happened on the Jubilee line.Yet fortunes are handed over to the people who plan and design these systems.

Simon Hayes ● 2443d

"Your post seemed pretty clear to me. Who are these people who didn't understand it?"Probably those who will assess the responses to the 'consultation'.As I have mentioned before, there is only ONE fully accessible station (and then to only one platform) on either Underground or National Rail in the whole of the borough - appalling.I will VERY happily be corrected if I am wrong.

N V Brooks ● 2443d

Your post seemed pretty clear to me. Who are these people who didn't understand it?

Susan Kelly ● 2443d