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Paul Gibbs explained"Just to add that my PM to Ms Bond was an apology, not that it should be any concern of yours."Oh but it is a concern of mine Mr Gibbs, as it is to anyone else who might have read your original post. This is, in case you've forgotten a public forum.Your original remark addressed to Ms.Bond which you posted on 21/05/17 16:15:00 was" May I ask why everything you post have to have a recycling angle?I know that you are well-intentioned but it borders on obsessive."A totally unwarranted, and highly personalised observation reflecting on what you took to be those personal traits, and lifesyle choices of another person which aren't to your liking; and which by implication you'd like them to change, simply so as to suit you.Otherwise why mention them at all ?  What purpose is served exactly other than causing possible offence?On 21/05/17 22:43:00 you then went on to explainthat "no apology will be forthcoming."And further that:"I maintain the right to express my view"along with  "I have messaged Ms. Bond"So that as of 21/05/17 22:43:00 anyone reading those remarks could only conclude that you stood by every word. That you thought Ms Bond's behaviour to be bordering on the obsessive and that you intend to maintain your right to make whatever personalobservations you like about other people on a public forum, regardless of any effect it might have on them.But now a day later, it transpires, contrary to what you previously claimed that you in fact did apologise to Ms Bond after all; but only in secret.So that in the meantime as far as everybody else was concerned you still considered Ms Bond's behaviour to be bordering on the obsessive. And you still maintained your right to point out this character flawof Ms.Bond's, as you see it, to whoever you like.And this is what you regard as an apology ?There's a chap who regularly posts on these forums, Ealing, Chiswick etc forever espousing the benefits of Linux, who I was intending to use as anexample but I couldn't remember his name. So I checked out some of the IT related threads on the various forums. I didn't find the chap'sname in the end but I did come across this, on the Chiswick Forum -...................................................Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ransomware Attack on NHSReplyForum HomePosted by: Paul GibbsDate/Time: 13/05/17 20:39:00Do feel free to post again when you have the courtesy to apologise foreither your errors or your evident lack of understanding of how IT systems work...................................................................So that assuming that the Paul Gibbs who posts on the Chiswick Forum is the same Paul Gibbs who posts on the Ealing Forum then it appearsthat - while on the one hand you demand that other posters should  apologise to you, merely because their knowledge of IT systems doesn't match up to your own, on the other hand despite being given the chance, you yourself have categorically refused to offer any sort public apology or retraction for the totally gratuitous and personal observations you made about another poster.By this stage, it has to be dragged out of you to that extent then it's probably best you don't bother.One of the most interesting aspects of social media such as this, is the abundant opportunities it gives people to reveal their true natures and character. Such that comments by anyone else are totallyunnecessary.michael adams...

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Paul Gibbs explained:"no apology will be forthcoming."And further that:"I maintain the right to express my view"Indeed. And if it wasn't for those like yourselfmaintaining their right to insult and defame peopleas you've just done with Ms Bond, then there'd bethousands of libel solicitors and QC's deprived ofa living, to say nothing of the effect on the Bench.And let's face it Mr Gibbs its relatively easy for youand your kind to act the Internet Hero by maintaining this right of yours to insult people, and tell them what you really think of them (and on so little evidence in this instance) when you can shield behind the relative anonymity of the internet.Whether you'd be quite so forthright in your views withsome of the more robust contributors to these forumswere you to meet them face-to-face can be leftfor others to decide.You see Mr.Gibbs, it's all a question of "good manners".And "good manners" isn't a question of background or class. You find people with good manners in all strata of society.Good manners basically means treating other people as they themselves would wish to be treated, and in the same manner they treat others in their turn. In my experience in all her postings on theseforums Ms. Bond has never directed a single personal remark at any other contributor, she doesn't engage in heated exchanges and neither has she directly challenged anyone. She simply makes her contributions and leaves it at thatAnd yet you Mr Gibbs, who on your own admission" Having only recently joined the forum "saw fit to challenge Ms Bond" May I ask why everything you post have to have a recycling angle?I know that you are well-intentioned but it borders on obsessive."and accuse her of being borderline obsessive.In other words Mr Gibbs, not only are you devoid of good manners but you appear determined to give others the benefit of your views about them as people despite the effect this might have on that person's feelings. For all you know at the time. And to what end exactly Mr Gibbs ? Paul Gibbs further wrote:"It is not a judgement, as you incorrectly claim, merely the expression of an opinion."All judgements are a matter of opinion Mr.Gibbs.If I asked you who in your judgement was the better striker, Harry Kane Romulu Lukaku, Jamie Vardy, or Sergi Aguero your answer would be your opinionSimilarly in Appeals to the High Court cases are decided on the Majority Opinion of the Judges hearing the Case. Might I suggest you look up "Majority Opinion"?Paul Gibbs further wrote:"I have messaged Ms. Bond and I doubt that she needs your public 'airing' of  heart-rending support."So that having previously described Ms.Bond as borderline obsessive, and while refusing to apologise for your remark, you now claim to have sent her a privatemessage and to be now speaking on her behalf. I see.Now why don't I find this all rather "creepy", to say the least ?So that -you turn up on this forum out of the blue. And on the strength of reading a few of their messages you decide to describe a regular contributor as being borderline obsessive, you directly challenge them to respond. And then when they decline your offer, you send them a private message.And then you have the temerity to claim that I'm the one one with the "agenda". When my only agenda Mr.Gibbs, such as it is, is to try and prevent this forum from descending into the sort of bear-pit where you'd clearly feel more at home, and where trading personal insults is the norm. Horses for courses and all that, Mr Gibbs.You see Mr.Gibbs the very fact that despite being a new member of this particular forum, you are already seemingly familiar with the mechanics of sending private messages does rather call into question your proclaimed innocence in this matter. And may one venture to say, how much devestationyou may have already left in your wake elsewhere.michael adams...

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