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Please note comments reported in other postings on the Ealing Forum:But is Ealing now just a developers' playground topped up with champagne in Cannes? Is this what it's really come to -and all this when the tree is green?"The problem residents have in Ealing is that LBE planners are not interested in what neighbours may think of developers' applications. This way if no-one knows that an application has been submitted and pending approval it's less correspondence that they will need to respond to!!!!  You can imagine a quick way in dealing with angry neighbours objecting to planning applications within the borough is not to notify anyone."  "...this ties up with the one party communist state where dissent was crushed and no-one had a voice to criticise politicians. Are the Planners above their paymasters I ask myself?"  [N.O.,W3]  "Judging by the contradictory and inaccurate case officer’s report, our own personal experience and other residents’ experiences it seems that the Planning Department is always on the developer’s side. Residents seem to be marginalised, disenfranchised and dismissed whilst the local environment and Victorian heritage is being slowly and insidiously degraded. We have to conclude that Ealing Planning Department, in conjunction with the developers it regularly supports, leaves a trail of misery, resentment, and anger, in its wake. If it carries on for much longer, Ealing 'The Queen of the Suburbs' will have to go into intensive care!Intelligent, moral, and balanced policies are desperately needed!"  [A.H., W13]"For if people do these things when the tree is green, what will happen when it is dry?"  [The Bible]

Victor Mishiku ● 4020d

Very few Notices for Planning Applications in our Borough appear in the local press.  This is going to be even less, it appears.  I still await a response from Ms Aileen Jones, Head of Planning, to my "Regulation 5" enquiry. I have asked several times now.Possibly, Ms Jones is away?  An automatic message states that Ms Jones is away with no return to work date indicated?As to computers, not everybody uses one. I know people who do not do so, yet they are still interested in having their neighbourhoods protected from unwelcome changes.The usual way that people become aware of Planning Applications is when the 21 days Notice comes through the letterbox (particularly memorable when they arrive on Xmas Eve or just as you are going off on your summer holiday perhaps!).  Such Notices by letter to adjoining owners is apparently to be stopped this month and instead individual Site Notices would be erected on lampposts, etc. near the property in question.There are several problems if the Notices by post are scrapped and replaced by Site Notices only.1) The cost of sending out staff to hundreds of locations to erect 1 or 2 (or more) such Notices would I imagine far outweigh the Second Class Postage needed to send a few neighbours the Notices by letterpost as usual.2) On corner plots or backland locations where development is being proposed means that a Notice placed outside the front door or entrance path or driveway of the application property may not even be seen by a neighbour around the corner (who perhaps walks the other way to the shops or station).  On backland sites, there could be people in 5 different roads who would be affected (for instance development of a playing field surrounded on 4 or 5 sides by residential neighbours).3) A Notice may be removed by the developer thus severely lessening the chance that neighbours would have directly been alerted to what was happening. [I have seen in the case of a house sale that an estate agents' board went up at 9am and then was removed by noon in order to prevent other people bidding for the property and this was obviously a conspiracy to give a favourable sale at a low price to a pre-arranged buyer, even though it was a re-possession so it was necessary to protect the borrower by advertising the house in a fair and open manner - which later had to be done by order of the Mortgage Company despite the obvious attempt to frustrate this and by re-advertising the house properly, the price achieved was improved by £30,000 and this was about 15 years ago]. 

Victor Mishiku ● 4021d

A large proportion of media these days is to some extent subsidised and local papers depend on the public notice revenue to survive.It is all very well harking back to the good old days when the Gazette won Pulitzer prizes and brought down presidents but those days have gone. The substantial income stream from classified ads and jobs has disappeared and as circulation has declined so has revenue from local businesses.I think the people who remain at the Gazette do a reasonable job and it is survival is important for us as a community as recent events such as the riots and the murder of Alice Gross show. If you were to take away the public notice business the paper would probably close along with much of the local newspaper industry across the country. This would essentially be a nationalisation of the function and I think people are being naive if they think Ealing Council will fulfil the role that was undertaken by the local press in a way that improves the way the public are informed.There would be huge complications both technical and legal in getting together a list of email address for the borough and they would probably need to employ three or four staff just to maintain it which would more or less wipe out the savings from pulling the ads from the papers. Facebook and Twitter would be a cheap way to extend the reach of any notification system but only in a very marginal way as the demographic of users isn't a good fit for people likely to be interested in planning issues.

Andy Jones ● 4027d

Planning notices need to be placed where all whom may be affected can see them. The assumption that everyone is on Facebook or Twitter is a folly or even online.Only email is one sure means as that can be gleaned by most with online access from council tax data or easily incorporated.The most effective is as suggested a large sign easily readable on Lamposts and on the site concerned plus a heavy fine if removed, which seems to be a favourite ploy of applicants.Plus a letter/flyer to every household/property within 100m seems pragmatic.The excuses offered by planning for a recent local development are quite frankly, an open declaration of incompetence which elected and somewhat silent councillors should not be accepting as anything other than unprofessional.As for the Ealing Gazette, which I was very fortunate to have worked at when it was one of the top local papers in the UK, it is heartbreaking to see it's editorial decline.  We were never restricted by advertising or external pressure although politicians and others would constantly try to exert pressure to manipulate a story.  The fact is, information is so much more controlled now and it is hard to verify information. Words fail me that they cannot cover stories that are months old with facts available when national papers can. One of these stories is a ticking timebomb which national papers are watching. But with closed ranks it seems there's more than just a few names involved.A case of watch this space

Mark Kehoe ● 4027d

Here is a case of inadequate Neighbour Notification having very serious ramifications.The following appears from the Sunday Times of 8th March 2015:"Solar flare-up" THE SUNDAY TIMES by Benedicte Earl 8/3/15."One of Britain’s largest solar farms may have to be dismantled after a Judge quashed its planning permission for failing to consult with locals.The 54-acre Norrington Solar Farm, near Broughton Gifford in Wiltshire, whose ultimate owner is SunEdison, one of the world’s largest solar-energy investment funds, was built close to Gifford Hall, a Grade II listed building. Daniel Gerber, owner of Gifford Hall, took a judicial review and last week a senior judge quashed Wiltshire council’s original planning permission. Gerber told the court he had not known about the solar farm until construction began. The farm cost £10m to build and started generating last June."It is to be noted that the Council concerned claimed to have carried out extensive consultations yet it failed to satisfy the Court. The Council say: "We are disappointed with the ruling, and will be considering a possible appeal. We carried out extensive publicity concerning this application at the site, including site notices, a press notice, and notifying neighbours we considered would be affected."So this happened in Wiltshire with the kind of procedure that exists at present in our Borough prior to the unneighbourly tampering with the long established protocol as proposed by the Planning Department and Cabinet.One is reminded of the biblical saying:"For if people do these things when the tree is green, what will happen when it is dry?"

Victor Mishiku ● 4040d

Please see below a corrected version of my last posting (the new Transparency Code for Councils is. of course, Feb 2015).I have also posted the (easier to read) formatted version at: https://db.tt/6auQT0xWDear Andy,In your posting above, you wrote setting out your understanding of the proposed new "reduced" Planning Department's procedures of Neighbour Notification:"Ealing are cutting any form of notification of planning applications that they don't have a statutory obligation to make. This includes some notices in the paper and posting notices on lampposts but the vast majority of notices will still be in the paper. Have I got this right?"~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~It seems to me however in the absence of a further response from Ms Aileen Jones, LBE Head of Planning, to my query re. Regulation 5, that in fact the vast majority of notices will NOT be in the paper, unless they are "major developments" or under a specialist category.Regular developments of less than 10 dwellings (incl. flats) in or adjacent to a Conservation Area will NOT be published in the press.  But here is the problem that in the absence of a response re. Regulation 5, I do not see how this is compliant with the law.  If Regulation 5 has been disapplied by statute, then there will be no Notices in the press except for the instances mentioned above.If you look at the existing (2012) Ealing Council Planning Applications Neighbour Notification procedure, which may be seen on the Council's Website at: https://db.tt/E4PCYvUl, you will see the following statement under the heading: "CONSULTATION CODE OF PRACTICE FOR NEIGHBOUR NOTIFICATION FOR PLANNING APPLICATIONS":-"It is Ealing’s practice to notify more widely than the statutory requirement. The Town & Country Planning (General Development Procedure) Order 1995, as amended, particularly Article 8 applies (see Appendix) and as amended in 2010. It is required that certain applications be advertised in a local newspaper, but many applications are advertised where the Council considers there to be a “wider interest” for more than the immediate neighbours. Where legislation offers a choice of using a site notice or notification letter to adjoining owner/occupiers, Ealing’s normal practice is to notify neighbours by letter, but both methods are used when an application is advertised. In addition, the type of application may make it appropriate to consult local groups and amenity societies and specialist organisations (see Statement of Community Involvement and list captured on GIS)."This ties in with Ms Aileen Jones's several public statements that "the Council is proud of the fact that it carries out MORE than the statutory requirements". My present query is this that in the current planning handbooks, the following appears on page 438 of Moore, in section 21.136, where it states: "(c)  Under s 73 of the LBCA Act 1990, the local planning authority must give publicity to any applications for planning permission where the development would, in the opinion of the authority, affect the character or appearance of a conservation area. Under reg 5 of the Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Regulations) 1990, the local planning authority MUST publish in a local newspaper circulating in the locality in which the land is situated and display on or near the land for not less than seven days, a notice indicating the nature of development proposed and stating where a copy of the application, and all plans and other documents submitted with it may be open to inspection, for a period of 21 days."This seems to relate to any developments in a Conservation Area (and not just for "major developments").In Statutory Instrument 2003 No.956, part of the text for Regulation 5 was modified in the sub-paragraph (a) of paragraph (1) relating to Conservation Areas. Paragraph (2) of the regulation was only slightly modified. The new sub-paragraph (a) as per Regulation 5 now inserts the new text below:(5) In regulation 5—(a) for sub-paragraph (a) of paragraph (1), substitute —“(a) publish in a local newspaper circulating in the locality in which the building is situated a notice indicating the nature of the works which are the subject of the application and—(i) naming a place within the locality where a copy of the application, and of all plans and other documents submitted with it, will be open to inspection by the public at all reasonable hours during the period of 21 days beginning with the date of publication of the notice; and(ii) stating the address of a website where a copy of the application, and of all plans and other documents submitted with it, will be open to inspection by the public during the period of 21 days beginning with the date of publication of the notice, and the place on the website where such documents may be accessed, and how they may be accessed; and”;(b) in paragraph (2), omit “both of” in both places in which it occurs, and in sub-paragraph (a) after “sub-paragraph (a)” insert “(i) or (ii)”.Reading the 2003 modified text of Regulation 5, I cannot see where the notification requirement to “publish in a local newspaper circulating in the locality” has been disapplied, - rather, the modified regulation seems to confirm the requirement?I have twice asked Ms Aileen Jones to please state if there is a new amendment disapplying the above statutory requirements.  I cannot find it in the planning books as yet.I also asked Ms Jones for details of a Cabinet Meeting and also a Conservation Area Forum that she mentions and asked to be referred to the Agenda and Minutes, etc and any notes issued re. the latter.  So far, I have not received a reply to these requests either.After at least 30 years of sending out postal Neighbour Notifications, as I believe most Councils do, and in view of Ms Jones being "proud" of always doing more than the bare minimum, I think that it is appalling that neighbours are not now going to be written to anymore.Ms Jones suggests that people can browse the Web to find out if a planning application has been made in their road, but there are thousands of roads in the Borough no doubt and there are residents who have never used or owned a computer or a "smartphone" (whatever that is?).As to Site Notices,  I would have thought that the expense involved in Council staff travelling the Borough far and wide to erect Notices on lampposts (if there are always such lampposts near the application land?) would far outweigh the cost of postage stamps to one or two houses either side or at the back of the application land. Also, Site Notices may not always be readily visible to some neighbours (say on a corner plot or at the rear in another road) and when it is known that this is the ONLY Notice of an Application that is going to exist, then there could also be the deliberate removal of the Notice.  [Apart from that, there may be a delay in erecting a Notice.  In one case, in Lewisham, the Public Planning Notice for demolition and proposed new building went up outside the premises (and in fact the premises were being used by the Council itself as a "Parking Shop") on the very day that the 21 days period ended!]This ending of letters in favour of Site Notices may be a false economy?I hope that this "unneighbourly" decision will be rescinded as soon as possible  - especially as it comes precisely at the time that the commendable "Local Government Transparency Code February 2015" has been introduced to include improving any procedure that "gives people the tools and information they need to enable them to play a bigger role in society" and "to increase democratic accountability and make it easier for local people to contribute to the local decision-making process".It does not seem quite the right time for Ealing Council Planning Department to stop sending out the familiar 21-day Notification Letters to neighbours or cut out Notices in the local press for Conservation Areas (excluding major developments) after 30 years or more of doing so.In 1989, the Assistant Chief Planning Officer, Mr Richard Kirby, took it on himself to prevent access to main planning files until just 3 days before the Committee Meeting claiming that he was enforcing the "Access To Information Act" (1985).  Mr Kirby did not have Committee or Cabinet authority to do this, and a subsequent claim to the contrary was not so, according to and as openly admitted to me by former Cllr. Janis Grant, assistant to the former Planning Supremo, Cllr. Gareth Daniel (later Chief Executive in LB. Brent).  A neighbour in Gordon Road wrote in to the local press saying that if this was the case then the Act was clearly misnamed!  An article was headed "Iron Curtain Descends in Planning Department" and another "Planners Lock Files Away" (or similar). I have all the old cuttings somewhere.This repressive regime was only ended in May/June 1990, when Cllr. Norman Pointing was made Chairman of the Town Planning Committee and "open access" was restored to this Borough (as there had always been hitherto).Thus, we have fought hard for people in LB. Ealing to be kept notified and have easy access to information.This withdrawal of Press Notices (some of which would not be in accordance with Regulation 5, unless this has been disapplied by statute?) and the ending of Neighbour Notifications by letters to adjoining properties is the start of this cutting down of the free flow ofinformation.What will be next to "save expenses"?  * Withholding of files again as in 1989? * No more Planning Committee site visits?  * No more Planning Committee Meetings in public? (i.e you just send the Planning Permission to the housing associations and other favoured developers in the post!).I hope that all Resident Associations, Amenity Groups, concerned residents will express their objection to the tampering with the long established Neighbour Notification procedures.In May 1994, the highly respected Labour Leader and Acton resident Cllr. John Cudmore pledged:"Planning decisions must take account of the feelings of local people"In February 2015, the Government encourages people to better involve themselves in the "decision-making process".But how can this happen when the Council is now resiling from 30 years of good neighbourly practice?Victor Mishiku  10/3/15

Victor Mishiku ● 4040d

Dear Andy, In your posting above, you wrote setting out your understanding of the proposed new "reduced" Planning Department's procedures of Neighbour Notification:"Ealing are cutting any form of notification of planning applications that they don't have a statutory obligation to make. This includes some notices in the paper and posting notices on lampposts but the vast majority of notices will still be in the paper. Have I got this right?"~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~It seems to me however in the absence of a further response from Ms Aileen Jones, LBE Head of Planning, to my query re. Regulation 5, that in fact the vast majority of notices will NOT be in the paper, unless they are "major developments" or under a specialist category.Regular developments of less than 10 dwellings (incl. flats) in or adjacent to a Conservation Area will NOT be published in the press.  But here is the problem that in the absence of a response re. Regulation 5, I do not see how this is compliant with the law.  If Regulation 5 has been disapplied by statute, then there will be no Notices in the press except for the instances mentioned above.If you look at the existing (2012) Ealing Council Planning Applications Neighbour Notification procedure, which may be seen on the Council's Website at: https://db.tt/E4PCYvUl, you will see the following statement under the heading: "CONSULTATION CODE OF PRACTICE FOR NEIGHBOUR NOTIFICATION FOR PLANNING APPLICATIONS":- "It is Ealing’s practice to notify more widely than the statutory requirement. The Town & Country Planning (General Development Procedure) Order 1995, as amended, particularly Article 8 applies (see Appendix) and as amended in 2010. It is required that certain applications be advertised in a local newspaper, but many applications are advertised where the Council considers there to be a “wider interest” for more than the immediate neighbours. Where legislation offers a choice of using a site notice or notification letter to adjoining owner/occupiers, Ealing’s normal practice is to notify neighbours by letter, but both methods are used when an application is advertised. In addition, the type of application may make it appropriate to consult local groups and amenity societies and specialist organisations (see Statement of Community Involvement and list captured on GIS)." This ties in with Ms Aileen Jones's several public statements that "the Council is proud of the fact that it carries out MORE than the statutory requirements".  My present query is this that in the current planning handbooks, the following appears on page 438 of Moore, in section 21.136, where it states:  "(c)  Under s 73 of the LBCA Act 1990, the local planning authority must give publicity to any applications for planning permission where the development would, in the opinion of the authority, affect the character or appearance of a conservation area. Under reg 5 of the Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Regulations) 1990, the local planning authority MUST publish in a local newspaper circulating in the locality in which the land is situated and display on or near the land for not less than seven days, a notice indicating the nature of development proposed and stating where a copy of the application, and all plans and other documents submitted with it may be open to inspection, for a period of 21 days."This seems to relate to any developments in a Conservation Area (and not just for "major developments").In Statutory Instrument 2003 No.956, part of the text for Regulation 5 was modified in the sub-paragraph (a) of paragraph (1) relating to Conservation Areas. Paragraph (2) of the regulation was only slightly modified. The new sub-paragraph (a) as per Regulation 5 now inserts the new text below:(5) In regulation 5—(a) for sub-paragraph (a) of paragraph (1), substitute —“(a) publish in a local newspaper circulating in the locality in which the building is situated a notice indicating the nature of the works which are the subject of the application and—(i) naming a place within the locality where a copy of the application, and of all plans and other documents submitted with it, will be open to inspection by the public at all reasonable hours during the period of 21 days beginning with the date of publication of the notice; and(ii) stating the address of a website where a copy of the application, and of all plans and other documents submitted with it, will be open to inspection by the public during the period of 21 days beginning with the date of publication of the notice, and the place on the website where such documents may be accessed, and how they may be accessed; and”;(b) in paragraph (2), omit “both of” in both places in which it occurs, and in sub-paragraph (a) after “sub-paragraph (a)” insert “(i) or (ii)”.Reading the 2003 modified text of Regulation 5, I cannot see where the notification requirement to “publish in a local newspaper circulating in the locality” has been disapplied, - rather, the modified regulation seems to confirm the requirement?I have twice asked Ms Aileen Jones to please state if there is a new amendment disapplying the above statutory requirements.  I cannot find it in the planning books as yet.I also asked Ms Jones for details of a Cabinet Meeting and also a Conservation Area Forum that she mentions and asked to be referred to the Agenda and Minutes, etc and any notes issued re. the latter.  So far, I have not received a reply to these requests either.After at least 30 years of sending out postal Neighbour Notifications, as I believe most Councils do, and in view of Ms Jones being "proud" of always doing more than the bare minimum, I think that it is appalling that neighbours are not now going to be written to anymore.Ms Jones suggests that people can browse the Web to find out if a planning application has been made in their road, but there are thousands of roads in the Borough no doubt and there are residents who have never used or owned a computer or a "smartphone" (whatever that is?).As to Site Notices,  I would have thought that the expense involved in Council staff travelling the Borough far and wide to erect Notices on lampposts (if there are always such lampposts near the application land?) would far outweigh the cost of postage stamps to one or two houses either side or at the back of the application land. Also, Site Notices may not always be readily visible to some neighbours (say on a corner plot or at the rear in another road) and when it is known that this is the ONLY Notice of an Application that is going to exist, then there could also be the deliberate removal of the Notice.  [Apart from that, there may be a delay in erecting a Notice.  In one case, in Lewisham, the Public Planning Notice for demolition and proposed new building went up outside the premises (and in fact the premises were being used by the Council itself as a "Parking Shop") on the very day that the 21 days period ended!]This ending of letters in favour of Site Notices may be a false economy?I hope that this "unneighbourly" decision will be rescinded as soon as possible  - especially as it comes precisely at the time that the commendable "Local Government Transparency Code February 2012" has been introduced to include improving any procedure that "gives people the tools and information they need to enable them to play a bigger role in society" and "to increase democratic accountability and make it easier for local people to contribute to the local decision-making process".It does not seem quite the right time for Ealing Council Planning Department to stop sending out the familiar 21-day Notification Letters to neighbours or cut out Notices in the local press for Conservation Areas (excluding major developments) after 30 years or more of doing so. In 1989, the Assistant Chief Planning Officer, Mr Richard Kirby, took it on himself to prevent access to main planning files until just 3 days before the Committee Meeting claiming that he was enforcing the "Access To Information Act" (1985).  Mr Kirby did not have Committee or Cabinet authority to do this, and a subsequent claim to the contrary was not so, according to and as openly admitted to me by former Cllr. Janis Grant, assistant to the former Planning Supremo, Cllr. Gareth Daniel (later Chief Executive in LB. Brent).  A neighbour in Gordon Road wrote in to the local press saying that if this was the case then the Act was clearly misnamed!  An article was headed "Iron Curtain Descends in Planning Department" and another "Planners Lock Files Away" (or similar). I have all the old cuttings somewhere. This repressive regime was only ended in May/June 1990, when Cllr. Norman Pointing was made Chairman of the Town Planning Committee and "open access" was restored to this Borough (as there had always been hitherto). Thus, we have fought hard for people in LB. Ealing to be kept notified and have easy access to information. This withdrawal of Press Notices (some of which would not be in accordance with Regulation 5, unless this has been disapplied by statute?) and the ending of Neighbour Notifications by letters to adjoining properties is the start of this cutting down of the free flow of information. What will be next to "save expenses"?  * Withholding of files again as in 1989?  * No more Planning Committee site visits?  * No more Planning Committee Meetings in public? (i.e you just send the Planning Permission to the housing associations and other favoured developers in the post!).I hope that all Resident Associations, Amenity Groups, concerned residents will express their objection to the tampering with the long established Neighbour Notification procedures.In May 1994, the highly respected Labour Leader and Acton resident Cllr. John Cudmore pledged:"Planning decisions must take account of the feelings of local people"In February 2012, the Government encourages people to better involve themselves in the "decision-making process".But how can this happen when the Council is now resiling from 30 years of good neighbourly practice?Victor Mishiku  10/3/15

Victor Mishiku ● 4040d

As I wrote to Ms Aileen Jones recently (reply awaited), it has been the custom in Ealing to notify adjoining neighbours by letter in addition to special statutory requirements for site notices and press publicity in Conservation Areas, etc.I am still waiting to hear about my query re. Regulation 5 to see if this has been disapplied by statute?For a general development (house extensions), a few letters to one or two neighbours either side, opposite and at the back would not be very costly.  In a recent case at 48 Horn Lane in Acton W3, developers applied for a backland development of a 4-storey Block of Flats in addition to other frontage development.  The application was described by then planning officer (since left) as totally unacceptable and after his site visit he later told neighbours that if the application was not withdrawn it would be refused under delegated powers.A long long time has gone by and neither of those things happened!Now, a week or so ago, a new application has been submitted for 7 two-storey private dwellinghouses on the backland and a different block on the frontage but the developers (well-known to LBE) have been allowed to avoid paying a new Application Fee by supposedly "revising" their original scheme.  It is a major change not a revision.  Other developers have not been given this latitude.It seems odd that the Council is "punishing" neighbours by denying them the usual 21 days letter (for the cost of a few postage stamps) - yet at the same time giving away thousands of pounds in application fees in the efforts to accommodate these backyard developers!The last scheme for which they did the deal can be seen at 62 Horn Lane is described by one of the local Acton Councillors as a "monstrosity".

Victor Mishiku ● 4042d

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/14377445/NotifcationProceduresLBE.pdf  (my original letter with adjusted page numbering layout)In reply to my letter of 2nd March 2015, Ms Aileen Jones confirmed yesterday that in the future there will no longer be any Notices in the press for ordinary applications in Conservation Areas (excluding "major" developments, etc).As far as I can see, this would not comply with regulations because under reg 5 of the Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Regulations) 1990, the local planning authority MUST publish "in a local newspaper" circulating in the locality in which the land is situated AND display on or near the land for not less than seven days, a Notice indicating the nature of development proposed and stating where a copy of the application, and all plans and other documents submitted with it may be open to inspection, for a period of 21 days.Also, Ms Jones said that Ealing Council's Cabinet (led by Cllr. Julian Bell) agreed that letters will no longer be sent to neighbours on ordinary planning applications  - instead there will be only a site notice tied onto the lamppost (but how long that lasts for remains to be seen  - I have heard of notices up in the morning and then disappeared later the same day!) which means no one will know!This is a very poor show for a Council that Ms Jones has on several occasions publically stated "prides itself in carrying out MORE than the Statutory requirements".More to follow:Victor Mishiku 4/3/15"The Covenant Movement"

Victor Mishiku ● 4046d