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IFTIKHAR FINALLY MADE A RACIST COMMENT

If you look at the context...it's racist.It's on the Brentford forum on the " gig is up " thread... his last post!"With out immigration, British society and economy would bleed to death. Britain is dying it natural death by aging population and low birth rate. Now the population would be replaced by Muslims.***    Did you forget how your white asses came on boats, robbed people of their wealth from colonies in East?   ***And killed and tortured them? Did you ´integrate´ then? You Britishers are-were nothing but thieves. Majority British population does not know its own history of crimes against humanity because your government there wants to regiment you with false propaganda and tell you bed time stories about your ´royalty´... who were, as I said, nothing but thieves. Whilst I agree that you have an immigration problem in this country, I don't think that this is your main problem. Your main problem is the disintegration of the family unit and the loveless binge drinking environment that your children are growing up in! NEVER in my life have I seen another country where people so seldom give their children a hug and a kiss like in this country and NEVER in my life have I seen another country where there are so many children from different fathers growing up in single parent households! Before you tackle the immigration problem (at least the immigrants LOVE their kids) you should first look at yourselves!"If I or anyone else would have used words like thieves, murderers and torturers... then referred to a specific skin colour there would be hell to pay would there not???If I had said that Muslims were brown arsed terrorists I'd be hung, drawn and quartered !!MODERATORS.... I WANT THIS MAN BANNED WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT !

Andy Wright ● 4289d13 Comments

I am for freedom of speech but this man is a troll for Islam whose aim is to promote his religion but never enter into debate. I think it is reasonable to bar such a troll. IIRC I have only ever advocated the removal of one other poster, a person who only played one tune though with varied words. ( I am not on about cyclists.)

Graham Weeks ● 4279d

Blocking people is EMPHATICALLY not the answer.It never ceases to amaze (and disgust) me that people that put themselves forward as models of liberal-minded thinking resort to trying to ban anybody that they don't agree with.Heck, I don't agree with this crazy guy either,but neither do I agree with having him shut up just because you or anybody else wants to see that happen.I'd like to see him deported maybe... if he has been here more than a certain time and is not paying taxes, but silenced?  No.

Tony Colliver ● 4279d

Agreed - sadly, most countries have some pretty nasty events in their history.BTW - are we sure that "he" is actually male?  From a previous thread (and this one actually as well) I got a hint that 'he' might in fact be a 'she'.

Tony Colliver ● 4280d

Andy, think you misinterpreted Gerry - I believe he was referring to ignotring the preacher of BS, not you.But I agree that he should be blocked from this forum...

Bud Richards ● 4283d

" we should ignore this crankie poster" Gerry... I'm not being cranky.  I just refuse to be dictated to by someone who holds the UK in contempt.

Andy Wright ● 4283d

Michael Adams is correct - we should ignore this crankie poster.  I get decidedly uneasy when there are shouts for someone or something to be banned. It makes me feel uncomfortable and worried. There's room for all.

Gerry Tan ● 4284d

Andy Wright wrote -"MODERATORS.... I WANT THIS MAN BANNED WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT !"Of course you do, and you've started typing in capital letters to prove it.Presumably you haven't realised this, but this forumisn't being run for your exclusive benefit, or entertainment.I can't speak for anyone else on this matter but I'd imagine that most people would recognise this Iftikhar character as being a bit of a religious crank, who posts reams of poorly argued long winded nonsense, and someone who is clearly not worth arguing with, but is best ignored.Cyberspace which includes local forums such as thisabounds with cranks like Iftikhar ranting away.Not just about religion, but about conspiracy theories, about science, there are even mathematicscranks who claim to have solved long standing problems, and have reams of equation packed pagesto prove it. The fact that you're willing to waste your time dissecting his posts for "mistakes", I'm sorry to say, says rather more about you than it does abouthim.  He's obviously a crank. So what's your excuse ?michael adams...

Michael Adams ● 4284d

It is because of who WE are that absolutely nothing will be done to shut him up once and for all.

Phil Kay ● 4288d

The trouble with this country is that we are now too darned tolerant, so much so that people like Shifty Ifty can rant and rave, call us all the names under the sun, yet not a thing is done about it.It seems that certain sections of the community can say and do as they please and for those of us who raise a voice to object we are then more or less told to hold fir and let these people carry on regardless.Well I am sorry folks but I really do think it is high time some other voices were heard, and actually listened to, instead of having this namby pamby society.If this gentleman really hates this country, it's people and it's customs then all I would say is there are many exits, perhaps he should consider somewhere more suited to his warped views on how to behave.Live and let live is one thing but having this person get away with berating us on a daily basis is just not on.Perhaps it is because of who he is that absolutely nothing will be done to shut him up once and for all.

Jean F Fernandez ● 4288d

Tony,You could pick over the bones of the histories of most countries and find tyranny, oppression, misery and a geneeralised gnashing of teeth if you only concentrated on the negative aspects...after all,'What have the Romans ever done for us'? to put it in a nutshell (assuming you have seen The Life of Brian).If he finds Britain such a horrible country and culture with a wicked past, why does he live here.It's because we are now tolerant and generous when it comes to state handouts and he doesn't have to work for a living, though lord knows who would give him a job...

Keith Iddon ● 4288d

I always feel uneasy when I hear shouts demanding the banning someone. If he is offensive, don't read his comments - besides, it a free country so live and let live.

Gerry Tan ● 4288d

Censorship is not the answer.Sticks and stones etc.Besides, he rather has a valid point doesn't he?

Tony Colliver ● 4288d

He is like Rushdie coming here, badmouthing us then taking advantage of our kind hospitality. I do not know who Churchill meant when he described someone as giving pederasty a bad name. Ifty does that to Islam. Banning him would be no loss but a plus for civil conversation.

Graham Weeks ● 4289d